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Solving Persistent Hard Starting Issues in the John Deere 328D Skid Steer
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The John Deere 328D and Its Engine Architecture
The John Deere 328D skid steer loader was introduced in the early 2010s as part of Deere’s D-series lineup, designed for high-performance applications in construction, agriculture, and landscaping. Powered by a 3.3L PowerTech E engine, the 328D features electronic unit injectors (EUI) rather than a common rail system. These injectors are camshaft-driven and controlled electronically, offering precise fuel delivery without the extreme pressures of common rail setups.
Despite its robust design, some units have exhibited chronic hard-starting behavior, even from new. This issue has proven elusive, with multiple components tested and replaced without resolution.
Symptoms and Initial Observations
The affected machine cranks for 20 to 60 seconds before starting, regardless of ambient temperature. Notably, there is no smoke during cranking, suggesting that fuel is not reaching the combustion chamber. Once running, the machine performs normally, and fuel pressure stabilizes around 28–30 psi. However, after shutdown—even when warm—it fails to restart easily.
The only diagnostic code consistently triggered is ECU 636.10, indicating an abnormal rate of change in the camshaft position signal. Swapping sensor connectors triggers ECU 637.10, pointing to the crankshaft signal. These clues suggest a synchronization issue between the engine control unit (ECU) and the position sensors.
Extensive Diagnostic Efforts
The following steps were taken:
  • Reprogramming the ECU and testing with a donor ECU from another machine
  • Replacing cam and crank sensors with new units
  • Installing new engine and main wiring harnesses, then reverting after no improvement
  • Inspecting tone wheels on both cam and crank for looseness or contamination
  • Testing injector harness and replacing it as a precaution
  • Checking fuel pressure retention over several days, confirming no significant drop
Despite these efforts, the issue persisted. The lack of smoke during cranking strongly suggests that injectors are not firing, possibly due to a signal or timing fault.
Potential Root Causes and Overlooked Factors
Several theories emerged:
  • Crank sensor signal degradation due to tone wheel misalignment or surface contamination
  • Electrical noise or grounding issues, especially in the starter circuit or ECU power supply
  • Hydraulic parasitic load, which could affect cranking speed and sensor signal interpretation
  • Temperature sensor faults, causing incorrect fuel delivery logic during warm starts
  • Valve train anomalies, although the engine uses hydraulic lifters and has no adjustable lash
One technician noted that improperly installed lifters could bend and cause erratic behavior. These can be checked by rotating them and observing for wobble.
Recommendations and Next Steps
To further isolate the issue:
  • Clean and inspect the crank tone wheel thoroughly, ensuring no debris or wear
  • Verify ECU grounding and starter circuit integrity, especially under warm conditions
  • Test exhaust backpressure and intake restriction, which may affect startup air flow
  • Use diagnostic software to monitor injector pulse during cranking
  • Check for pushed-in connector pins at relays and sensor plugs
If injectors are not firing during cranking, the issue may lie in the ECU’s interpretation of sensor data. Since the machine starts better cold than warm, thermal expansion or electrical resistance may be influencing signal quality.
Conclusion
The hard-starting issue in the John Deere 328D is a complex interplay of electronic and mechanical factors. While the EUI system avoids the pitfalls of high-pressure common rail setups, it relies heavily on precise timing and clean signals. A methodical approach—focusing on sensor alignment, electrical integrity, and ECU logic—is essential. With persistence and attention to detail, even the most stubborn startup problems can be resolved, restoring the 328D to reliable service.
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