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Overview of the Case 580B Backhoe
The Case 580B is an iconic loader-backhoe released in the 1970s, equipped with a diesel engine commonly paired with a mechanical Bosch-style VE injection pump. Case has produced thousands of 580-series machines; the 580B remains one of the most common classic backhoes in use today. Its injection system is purely mechanical, so proper alignment between the engine (crank / flywheel) and the injection pump is critical for reliable performance.
Symptoms of Mistimed Injection
Owners who find their 580B running poorly after a pump rebuild often report:
Key Components & Definitions
Common Mistiming Issues
Valve Clearances Impact Timing Feel
Correct Procedure for Setting Timing
From the collective advice and technical experience:
Risks of Incorrect Timing
Real‑World Lessons & Best Practice
Conclusion
For a Case 580B backhoe, correct injection pump timing is essential for good running behavior. Key takeaways: set the engine to true TDC (compression stroke), ensure the scribe mark on the pump’s cage is accurate, and align internal pump marks using the timing window — not just by eye. Improper timing or mis-scribing can lead to rich smoke, poor performance, and potential engine damage. Careful setup — potentially with help from a specialist — will restore optimal combustion, smooth idle, and reliable operation.
The Case 580B is an iconic loader-backhoe released in the 1970s, equipped with a diesel engine commonly paired with a mechanical Bosch-style VE injection pump. Case has produced thousands of 580-series machines; the 580B remains one of the most common classic backhoes in use today. Its injection system is purely mechanical, so proper alignment between the engine (crank / flywheel) and the injection pump is critical for reliable performance.
Symptoms of Mistimed Injection
Owners who find their 580B running poorly after a pump rebuild often report:
- Excessive black or blue smoke (running “rich”)
- Hard starting, especially when cold
- Rough idle or sluggish acceleration
- Engine feels “off,” like the injection timing isn’t aligned
Key Components & Definitions
- Top Dead Center (TDC): The piston position where cylinder #1 is at its highest point in the compression stroke.
- Timing Window / Timing Plate: A small access window on the injection pump housing that reveals timing lines or marks. These marks must align with reference lines when timing is correct.
- Cage or Weight Cage: The rotating assembly inside the pump; it holds weights that advance fuel injection timing under load. Its alignment is critical.
- Scribe Mark: A small line or mark etched onto the cage that indicates its proper orientation relative to the pump housing once correctly timed.
Common Mistiming Issues
- Incorrect Scribe Alignment
- If the scribe on the cage (rotating weight assembly) was transferred improperly during pump rebuild, the timing will be off.
- The master rebuilder (“thepumpguysc”) in the discussion emphasizes that the scribe must be correctly referenced and often re-scribed using a degree wheel, not just eyeballed.
- If the scribe on the cage (rotating weight assembly) was transferred improperly during pump rebuild, the timing will be off.
- 180-Degree (Half‑Turn) Misalignment
- This misalignment happens when the pump is installed “upside down” relative to the engine’s firing order: the marks might align but correspond to the wrong stroke.
- One forum expert noted that unless #1 cylinder is on its correct compression stroke (with both valves closed), you might be 180° out. Another had seen this scenario in a 580C model.
- Confirming compression stroke before final pump alignment is essential; several users recommended using the valve cover removed and watching rocker arms / pushrods to verify.
- This misalignment happens when the pump is installed “upside down” relative to the engine’s firing order: the marks might align but correspond to the wrong stroke.
- Drive Shaft or Keyway Issues
- On some pumps, there is a dot or key inside the pump drive shaft, and a matching dot on the engine drive shaft: aligning these “dot-to-dot” is critical to timing.
- If the drive shaft or internal key is misaligned, even correct external marks may be useless.
- On some pumps, there is a dot or key inside the pump drive shaft, and a matching dot on the engine drive shaft: aligning these “dot-to-dot” is critical to timing.
Valve Clearances Impact Timing Feel
- One user adjusted the valve lash on his 580B (intake and exhaust) after many years and noted that while the engine became quieter, its starting behavior worsened, and it began producing a “rich blue haze.”
- Loose or incorrectly adjusted tappets (valve clearances) can affect how the engine draws in air, which changes combustion and may make the timing feel “off” when in fact the injection timing is fine.
Correct Procedure for Setting Timing
From the collective advice and technical experience:
- Set Engine to TDC (Compression Stroke on #1)
- Remove a plug on the bell housing or use the timing inspection window.
- Rotate the flywheel until the TDC mark aligns with the pointer while ensuring cylinder #1 is on the compression stroke (both valves closed).
- Remove a plug on the bell housing or use the timing inspection window.
- Align the Injection Pump Marks
- Remove the timing‑window cover on the pump to see the internal marks.
- Adjust the pump body so that the internal lines or scribe mark align correctly with the housing reference.
- Remove the timing‑window cover on the pump to see the internal marks.
- Verify Scribe on the Weight Cage
- For accurate timing, the scribe mark on the cage must be correct. If not, the cage may need to be removed, aligned on a degree wheel, and re-scribed. According to an expert rebuilder, this alignment is not reliable without removing the cage and using proper tools.
- Incorrect scribing can lead to incorrect injection timing even if external marks align “correctly.”
- For accurate timing, the scribe mark on the cage must be correct. If not, the cage may need to be removed, aligned on a degree wheel, and re-scribed. According to an expert rebuilder, this alignment is not reliable without removing the cage and using proper tools.
- Lock and Test
- Tighten the pump mounting bolts once alignment is confirmed.
- Bleed the fuel system (especially if lines were loosened).
- Start the engine and monitor for smoke, roughness, and idle quality. Fine-tune if necessary.
- Tighten the pump mounting bolts once alignment is confirmed.
Risks of Incorrect Timing
- If the timing is too advanced: severe “pinging” or knocking can damage engine components and rings.
- If too retarded: poor power, excessive smoke, and inefficient fuel usage.
- Misalignment by 180° (“turning the pump too far”) can prevent the engine from running correctly, though some machines may run poorly in that condition.
Real‑World Lessons & Best Practice
- In one account, after realigning the pump properly, the operator regained a smoother, quieter running engine, and the blue haze diminished significantly.
- Another user pointed out that, during rebuilds, failing to mark and re-scribe the weight cage is a common mistake — and a rebuilt pump without proper scribe alignment may perform worse than the original.
- Veteran mechanics advised that when doing timing work, always record your original alignment, double-check marks with the engine on correct stroke, and if in doubt, send components (like the cage) to a specialist to re-scribe correctly.
Conclusion
For a Case 580B backhoe, correct injection pump timing is essential for good running behavior. Key takeaways: set the engine to true TDC (compression stroke), ensure the scribe mark on the pump’s cage is accurate, and align internal pump marks using the timing window — not just by eye. Improper timing or mis-scribing can lead to rich smoke, poor performance, and potential engine damage. Careful setup — potentially with help from a specialist — will restore optimal combustion, smooth idle, and reliable operation.

