Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Case 1845 Skid Steer Drive Noise: Causes, Diagnosis, and Solutions
#1
Understanding the Case 1845 Drive System and Noise Issues
The Case 1845 skid steer loader relies on a chain-driven final drive system where hydraulic motors power sprockets that move heavy-duty chains connected to the machine’s axles and wheels. Noise emanating from the drive system can be a serious concern, indicating potential mechanical wear, improper adjustment, or hydraulic issues that could jeopardize machine performance and longevity.
Drive noise in the 1845 model typically manifests as loud squealing, groaning, rattling, or grinding sounds during movement, especially when turning, pushing heavy loads, or operating under load. Addressing these noises early can prevent costly breakdowns and extensive repairs.

Common Causes of Drive Noise in Case 1845
  • Chain Slack and Misadjustment
    Chains running too loose inside the drive housing cause rattling or knocking noises. Excess slack can lead to chain jumping over sprocket teeth, uneven wear, and vibration. Proper chain tension adjustment is critical to avoid these problems.
  • Sheared or Loose Pin Locks in Chains
    Pin locks holding chain segments may shear off or loosen over time, causing segments to bounce, skip teeth, or generate harsh noise. This failure increases stress on sprockets and can rapidly deteriorate the drive system.
  • Worn or Rounded Sprockets
    Sprocket teeth wear into rounded profiles due to prolonged use, improper lubrication, or contamination. Rounded teeth do not properly engage chain links, causing slipping, noise, and uneven power transmission.
  • Hydraulic Motor or Pump Whine and Groaning
    Hydraulic components such as drive motors or pumps might emit whining or groaning sounds if there is internal wear, air entrainment, cavitation or if incorrect hydraulic fluid is used. Fluid contamination or inadequate filtration also exacerbates noise issues.
  • Loose or Damaged Components
    Loose bolts, worn bearings, or damaged seals inside the final drive or chaincase can cause vibration and noise during operation.

Diagnostic Approach and Checks
  • Visual Inspection of Chains and Sprockets
    • Check for excessive chain slack by measuring chain tension against manufacturer specifications.
    • Inspect pins and links for looseness or damage.
    • Examine sprocket teeth for wear patterns, rounded or chipped teeth.
  • Listen and Isolate Noise Source
    • Determine if noise coincides with certain operations such as turning or applying load.
    • Identify if noise is mechanical (chain/sprocket) or hydraulic by listening near motors and pumps.
  • Hydraulic Fluid and Filtration Inspection
    • Confirm use of correct hydraulic fluid recommended by Case (Case TCH fluid is preferred for its anti-foaming and additive package).
    • Change hydraulic filters regularly and check for contamination or air ingress.
    • Bleed hydraulic systems carefully to remove trapped air that causes cavitation and noise.
  • Check Pin Locks and Chain Conditions
    • Examine pin locks for shearing or movement. Replace any damaged links or complete chains if necessary.
  • Tighten Loose Components
    • Verify all sprocket bolts, motor mounts, and drive assembly fasteners are secure.

Maintenance and Repair Recommendations
  • Regular Chain Adjustment
    • Maintain correct chain tension per Case specifications to prevent slack and misalignment.
  • Replace Worn Chain and Sprockets
    • When wear is visible on sprockets or chains, replace to prevent further damage and restore quiet operation.
  • Hydraulic Fluid Care
    • Always use correct Case TCH hydraulic oil. Avoid cheaper or generic fluids lacking anti-foaming agents.
    • Perform complete fluid changes and system flushes when contamination or degradation is suspected.
    • Bleed hydraulic motors and pumps meticulously, including fluid inside the motors, not just the tank.
  • Pin Lock Inspection and Replacement
    • Regularly inspect chain pin locks for integrity; replace chains sooner if any failure occurs.
  • Professional Overhaul if Needed
    • If noises persist after basic maintenance, consider sending final drives or hydraulic components for professional inspection and repair.

Real-World Cases and Anecdotes
  • An operator reported a persistent groaning noise from his early 1845 model when moving load and turning. After replacing the used generic R&O hydraulic oil with Case TCH fluid and bleeding all motors, the noise was significantly reduced, confirming the importance of factory-specified fluid.
  • Another maintenance team found that a noisy chain housing was due to sheared pin locks causing chain segments to bounce and skip sprocket teeth. Replacing the chain and adjusting tension resolved the noise and improved drive smoothness.
  • A comprehensive inspection showed rounded sprocket teeth on an 1845 unit after years of little lubrication maintenance. Replacement of the sprockets and chains, combined with frequent oil changes, extended the machine's service life and eliminated the rattling sounds.

Terminology Explained
  • Drive Chain: Heavy-duty chain transmitting power from the hydraulic drive sprocket to the wheels or axles.
  • Sprocket: A toothed wheel engaging the drive chain links to transfer rotation.
  • Pin Lock: A mechanical fastening component securing segments of the drive chain.
  • Hydraulic Motor: The component converting hydraulic fluid pressure into mechanical rotational force to drive sprockets.
  • Cavitation: Formation and collapse of air bubbles in hydraulic fluid causing noise and possible component damage.
  • Chaincase: The enclosed housing around drive chains and sprockets containing lubrication.
  • Chain Slack/Tension: The amount of free play in the chain; correct tension prevents skipping and damage.
  • Anti-Foaming Hydraulic Fluid: Specialized fluid additives that reduce foaming, prevent cavitation and promote stable hydraulic operation.

Additional Tips and Solutions
  • Use a torque wrench to tighten sprocket and motor bolts to manufacturer specifications, avoiding overtightening or loosening.
  • Perform chain adjustments when the machine is cold for accurate tension settings.
  • Replace chaincase seals if leaks are noted to prevent lubricant loss and contamination ingress.
  • Add regular visual checks of chains and sprockets into the preventive maintenance checklist.
  • Use ear protection during operation to protect from high noise levels during troubleshooting.

Summary
Drive noise issues on a Case 1845 skid steer typically arise from loose or worn drive chains, damaged sprockets, sheared pin locks, hydraulic fluid problems, or loose components. Proper diagnosis involves inspection of mechanical chain elements and hydraulic systems, ensuring correct chain tension, replacing worn parts, using manufacturer-recommended hydraulic fluids, and thorough system bleeding.
Real-world experience confirms that adherence to correct chain maintenance and hydraulic oil specifications markedly reduces drive noise and prolongs component life. Early attention to noises avoids costly repairs and downtime.
Operators and technicians maintaining the Case 1845 should prioritize regular chain inspections, sprocket wear assessments, fluid changes using specialized hydraulic fluids, and diligent bleeding practices to ensure smooth, quiet, and reliable drive operation.
This comprehensive understanding and care approach helps preserve the historic Case 1845 skid steer’s performance and usability for years to come.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Genie S-60 Drive/Steer Joystick Troubleshooting: A Comprehensive Guide MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Troubleshooting Parking Brake Issues on the Case 430 Skid Loader: A Diagnostic Guide MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Troubleshooting a Case 211 LC Excavator Track Working Only in Reverse MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Troubleshooting Intermittent Track Power Loss on Case 850 Dozers MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Comprehensive Guide to Troubleshooting and Repairing Brakes on a Case 580C Backhoe Loader MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Bobcat T590 Overheating and Hooting Issues: Causes, Diagnoses, and Solutions MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Case 580B Backhoe: Diagnosing Forward Gear Failure with Strong Reverse MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Ford 4500 Select-O-Speed Transmission Problems: Comprehensive Analysis and Solutions MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Komatsu PC75 Swing Problem: Causes, Diagnosis, and Solutions MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Resolving Sprocket and Chain Mismatch on the TD-20C Dozer: Pitch Conflicts, Bolt Damage, and Undercarriage Solutions MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Case 1830 Tractor Won’t Start: Troubleshooting and Solutions Guide MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Diagnosing Steering Reversal in the CAT 973 Loader: Hydraulic Imbalance, Drive Motor Leakage, and Field Testing MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Comprehensive Guide to Troubleshooting 4WD Engagement Issues in Case 580 Super E Loader Backhoes MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Troubleshooting the Sundstrand M46 Tandem Hydraulic Pump in Bobcat Skid Steers: Pressure Loss, Valve Plate Wear, and Repair Strategies MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Diagnosing Foot Control Failures in the 1996 Mustang 940E Skid Loader: Electrical Quirks, Safety Locks, and Winter Readiness MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)