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  SANY SY215C-8 Excavator: A Practical Experience Report
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 05:20 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

In this interview, we meet Mr. Gao, a seasoned user from Liaoning, China, who owns a SANY SY215C-8 excavator. This model is the best-selling product in the domestic excavator market, and its popularity among users is evident. Mr. Gao's experience with this machine offers valuable insights into the performance and reliability of the SANY SY215C-8.
User Background
Mr. Gao, also known by his online handle "OO8," hails from Liaoyang, Liaoning. He is a veteran in the construction machinery industry, having entered the equipment leasing business about five years ago. Before purchasing the SY215C-8, he had already bought a Longgong ZL50C loader and a XCMG 951 wheel loader. The SY215C-8 is his first excavator.
Purchase Information

  • Purchase Date: April 2010
  • Dealer: SANY Liaoning Agent, Sanjun Machinery
  • Total Price: 840,000 RMB (including a 24,000 RMB down payment)
  • Payment Plan: 2 years, with monthly installments of 29,000 RMB
  • Free Offer: 10,000 RMB worth of spare parts
Before making the purchase, Mr. Gao considered three different models: the Hyundai R215-9, the Doosan DH225LC-7, and the SANY SY215C-8. After evaluating factors such as hydraulic pump design, engine quality, and overall configuration, he ultimately chose the SANY SY215C-8. This decision was influenced by SANY’s imported Mitsubishi engine and Kawasaki hydraulic components, which Mr. Gao found to be more durable and of higher quality than the others. Furthermore, the local SANY dealer offered more flexible financing options, which helped him make the final choice.
The machine has now logged over 1,400 operating hours.
Operator Situation
Mr. Gao’s excavator is operated by a local 80s-generation worker, who is well-trained in machine operation and maintenance.
Worksite Conditions
After performing around 100 hours of general site work at home, the machine was moved to a high-speed railway construction site by China Railway 19th Bureau. There, it has been involved in digging foundation piles and other earthworks. The soil in this area is generally loose, so the machine has mainly been used for earth-moving tasks.
Work Efficiency
The SANY SY215C-8’s performance has been positively noted for its quick movements. According to Mr. Gao, compared to other machines on the same site, such as the Komatsu PC220-8 and Doosan DH225LC-7, the SANY machine performs slightly faster. The construction team has expressed satisfaction with the machine's work efficiency.
Fuel Consumption
  • Normal Operation (7 throttle): 12-14 liters per hour
  • Busy Operation (10 throttle): 18 liters per hour
Mr. Gao considers this fuel consumption to be quite reasonable and efficient for a machine of its class. Compared to other models in the same weight range, the SY215C-8 uses less fuel.
Product Performance and Issues
  • Engine: With over 1,400 hours of operation, the engine has not experienced any issues. However, it is louder than some other models, especially when working alongside the Doosan DH225LC-7.
  • Hydraulic System: No problems reported with the hydraulic system so far.
  • Other Issues: There was one minor incident where the air conditioning condenser was damaged by the operator, but Mr. Gao fixed it himself.
Mr. Gao notes that, with only 1,400 hours on the machine, it is still too early to fully judge the long-term durability and performance of the SY215C-8. He plans to continue updating his experience in the forum as the machine accumulates more operating hours.
Dealer and After-Sales Service
The dealer, Sanjun Engineering Machinery, has provided Mr. Gao with timely and reliable service. He is very satisfied with the responsiveness of the service team, as they are quick to respond to any inquiries or issues.
Parts and Maintenance
So far, Mr. Gao has only purchased maintenance parts, which he finds somewhat expensive. He mentioned in his review, "I heard these parts are imported from Japan. While the quality is good, it would be great if the prices were a bit lower to help reduce operational costs."
Summary
Overall, Mr. Gao is highly satisfied with his SANY SY215C-8 excavator. It has performed excellently in earth-moving tasks, with good fuel efficiency and no significant mechanical issues. He appreciates the high-quality build of the machine, particularly the engine and hydraulic system, and finds the service from the dealer to be dependable. As he continues to operate the machine for many more hours, he hopes that it will continue to perform well and generate substantial profits for his business.

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  Caterpillar 307D Excavator: A Case Study
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 05:19 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

This time, we interviewed a user from Hubei, known as "Hubei Xiao Hu," who owns the first Caterpillar 307D excavator in the province. This 7-ton full-imported machine has been highly regarded by many members in the community, and Xiao Hu’s experience with it serves as a representative case for similar users.
User Background
Xiao Hu, born in 1986, is a typical example of someone who transitioned from an excavator operator to an owner. Before purchasing the 307D, he had nearly 5 years of experience driving excavators, primarily for his brother-in-law. As infrastructure development in his local area took off, Xiao Hu accumulated some savings and decided to start his own business by purchasing an excavator.
Purchase Information

  • Purchase Date: January 15, 2010
  • Dealer: Li Xing Hang, Hubei Branch
  • Total Price: 510,000 RMB (with insurance 19,700 RMB)
  • Down Payment: 120,000 RMB
  • Financing Term: 3 years
At the time of purchase, Xiao Hu considered three models: the Caterpillar 307D, Hitachi ZX70 (full import), and Komatsu PC60-7. After evaluating factors such as price, payment options, quality, and brand reputation, Xiao Hu chose the Caterpillar 307D for its superior performance and reputation.
Operator Situation
With many years of operating experience, Xiao Hu drives the excavator himself during the initial stages to reduce labor costs while ensuring proper maintenance and care for the machine.
Worksite Conditions
Xiao Hu primarily works on construction sites and agricultural land reclamation projects in Qianjiang, Hubei. The area is part of the Jianghan Plain, and the work mainly involves earthworks for construction foundations and irrigation infrastructure.
Work Efficiency
The Caterpillar 307D is noted for its fast rotation and boom lift speeds. Compared to other machines on the same site, its performance is noticeably faster and more powerful. Xiao Hu’s friend, who uses a Caterpillar 307C, confirmed that the 307D is much quicker than its predecessor, the 307C, improving overall work efficiency.
Fuel Consumption
During summer, when the air conditioning is used, the excavator consumes about 5.9 liters per hour with a 5-throttle setting. Considering local diesel prices of 6.25 RMB per liter, the hourly fuel cost is approximately 37 RMB. Xiao Hu believes this fuel consumption is moderate for a 7-ton excavator. In comparison, the Hitachi ZX70, in economic mode, consumes about 4 RMB less per hour than the 307D. However, if the ZX70 operates in power mode, its fuel consumption is significantly higher than the 307D.
Product Performance and Issues
  • Engine: No issues reported; it runs smoothly.
  • Hydraulic System: No problems encountered; performs reliably.
  • Other Issues: After 1,000 hours of use, no faults or issues have arisen.
Dealer and After-Sales Service
Since purchasing the 307D, Xiao Hu has been very pleased with the customer service provided by Li Xing Hang, the dealer. Whenever there is an issue, a quick call ensures that the service team arrives the same day to address the problem. Xiao Hu mentioned in his post, "Caterpillar’s service team is very fast; they arrive the same day as the call."
Parts and Maintenance
As the first 307D in Hubei, Xiao Hu received a special offer for free 1,500-hour maintenance. So far, he has only purchased an air filter, which cost 218 RMB. Xiao Hu is satisfied with the pricing of Caterpillar parts, noting that they are reasonable and cheaper than parts from many domestic brands.
Summary
The Caterpillar 307D excavator is Xiao Hu’s most valuable asset, and after nearly 1,000 hours of operation, the machine is performing exceptionally well. The dealer’s service has been attentive, and parts costs are acceptable. As a full-import 7-ton machine, the Caterpillar 307D has proven to be a highly reliable and efficient piece of equipment. Xiao Hu looks forward to the next 1,000 hours of operation and hopes the machine will continue to bring in profits, helping to expand his "excavator business" further.
We too, like Xiao Hu, are excited for the future and wish him even greater success in his excavator journey.

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  Caterpillar 336DL Excavator User Experience
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 05:16 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

In this interview, we highlight a user from Liaoning, China, known as "Autumn's Feelings YZ," a passionate excavator operator and a veteran in the field. As a member of an engineering machinery forum, he is known for offering guidance to fellow enthusiasts. Being a 70s-born "Northeast guy," his experience with excavators began in 2004, when his family-owned brick factory needed a machine for earth-moving. He initially bought a second-hand Hitachi EX200, which led him into the world of excavators. For the first few years, Autumn’s Feelings YZ drove the machine himself, developing a deep understanding of excavator quality, performance, and operation. Over time, he gained experience operating nearly every major brand and model on the market, which significantly contributed to his ability to choose and maintain equipment.
Purchase Information:

  • Purchase Date: November 2009
  • Purchase Price: 2.05 million yuan (paid in full)
  • Dealer: Purchased from Liaoning West
  • Alternatives Considered: Komatsu PC350-7, Caterpillar 336DL
Autumn’s Feelings YZ considered the Komatsu PC350-7, but due to its limited availability and high maintenance costs in China, he decided on the Caterpillar 336DL, a common model used in local mining operations.
Operator Details:
The 336DL is operated by two local 80s-generation operators who alternate shifts. Autumn's Feelings YZ, being an operator himself, understands the importance of maintaining a clean and comfortable driving environment. His 336DL’s cabin is notably spotless, a reflection of his care for equipment and emphasis on safety and efficiency.
Working Conditions:
After purchasing the machine, it was sent to a local quarry for heavy-duty work, where it primarily dealt with blasting debris and hard rocks. Other machines on-site include the Komatsu PC360 and Hitachi ZX330-3, both over 30 tons.
Work Efficiency:
According to Autumn's Feelings YZ, the Caterpillar 336DL offers significant advantages in terms of speed and efficiency:
  • Bucket Size Comparison: The 336DL is equipped with a 1.62 m³ rock bucket and a 1.87 m³ standard bucket. For comparison, the standard 40 cubic meter dump trucks in the quarry are filled with just 15 bucket loads, whereas the smaller buckets of the Komatsu PC360-7 and Hitachi ZX330-3 are unable to handle the same amount efficiently.
  • Loading Speed: The 336DL can load faster than both the Komatsu and Hitachi machines, particularly with the larger buckets, giving it a noticeable edge in the quarry.
Additionally, Autumn’s Feelings YZ shares an incident where the 336DL outperformed a Komatsu PC400-7 in lifting heavy parts in the quarry. This solidified his confidence in the Caterpillar brand and the machine’s exceptional capabilities.
Fuel Consumption:
The 336DL generally operates in economy mode (E mode), with an average fuel consumption of 28 liters per hour, which increases slightly to 32-33 liters per hour during active digging. When factoring in all operational time, including idling and waiting for trucks, the fuel consumption remains relatively efficient.
  • Fuel Efficiency: In daily work with a 1.64 m³ rock bucket, the machine consumes 30-33 liters per hour in economy mode and slightly more in standard mode. This consumption rate is deemed reasonable for its class.
Product Performance and Issues:
  • Engine Performance: There have been no major issues with the engine, though it consumes a small amount of oil. Every 500 hours, 12-13 liters of oil are added. The consumption is due to the deeper cylinder honing used in Caterpillar engines to extend their lifespan. This results in a small amount of oil burning off during operation.
  • Hydraulic System: No significant issues have been reported with the hydraulic system.
  • Other Issues: The operator’s cabin experienced minor issues, such as a broken handrail, which was repaired through welding. Additionally, the air intake grille's plastic cover broke, which is a common problem across many brands. Lastly, the cabin's front windshield seal was not tight enough, allowing dust to enter, so the seal was reinforced with glue for better protection.
Maintenance and Parts:
Autumn’s Feelings YZ maintains the excavator himself due to his extensive experience. He also added a fuel filter machine and an air pre-filter system to improve machine longevity and performance:
  • Fuel Filtration: A fuel filter machine was purchased for 6,000 yuan to clean diesel before it enters the machine, improving fuel quality and significantly extending filter replacement intervals from 250 hours to 1,000 hours.
  • Air Pre-Filter & Anti-theft System: He added an air pre-filter and a computer board anti-theft system, further enhancing the machine's reliability.
Dealer and After-Sales Service:
Though Autumn’s Feelings YZ has never had to call the dealer for repairs, he has had positive experiences with Liaoning West, the authorized Caterpillar dealer. He feels that they offer excellent customer service and are always ready to assist, although he prefers to manage maintenance independently.
Parts and Pricing:
  • Parts Pricing: Autumn’s Feelings YZ typically buys parts directly from the dealer, emphasizing the quality and reliability of Caterpillar's original parts. However, he finds that some parts, especially for smaller components like buckets and teeth, can be overpriced, although they offer high durability.
  • Parts Choice: For minor parts, he sometimes sources from other suppliers if the quality is comparable and the price is more reasonable.
Conclusion:
Autumn’s Feelings YZ is highly satisfied with the performance of the Caterpillar 336DL. He praises its durability, efficiency, and excellent control precision, which makes it stand out among other brands in the same class. The machine’s fuel consumption is also reasonable, especially considering the harsh quarry conditions in which it operates. If parts pricing were a bit more competitive, Caterpillar would likely see an even greater market share.

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  Doosan DH300LC-7 Excavator: A Journey with “Old Truck”
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 05:13 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

This interview features an experienced excavator user from Sichuan, known by the forum name “Old Truck.” In 2008, due to a large site leveling project in his hometown, Old Truck needed several construction machines, so he decided to purchase an excavator. Initially, he bought a second-hand Sumitomo SH280 for 160,000 yuan, but soon discovered the machine was defective. After realizing that the machine had been sold to several users who had also been deceived, Old Truck disassembled the excavator and sold it as scrap for 75,000 yuan. After this experience, he purchased a brand new Doosan DH300LC-7 and began his journey into the world of excavators. Within two years, he bought two more Doosan DH300LC-7s and two Doosan DH215-7s, becoming a loyal Doosan customer.
Purchase Information:

  • Purchase Time: July 2008
  • Purchase Price: 580,000 yuan, with an upfront payment, to be paid off within six months
  • Total Work Hours: 5,700 hours
Working Conditions:
Old Truck’s hometown is located in a mountainous area, which presents a great challenge for excavation work. Most of the work involves road construction or land leveling in mountainous terrains. The excavators used in these conditions are typically over 25 tons, requiring high durability.
Work Efficiency:
While working on large construction sites, the Doosan DH300LC-7’s working speed is relatively slower compared to other brands. However, it performs well overall, especially when paired with a soil ripper. With the help of this attachment, the DH300LC-7 is capable of digging over 1,000 cubic meters per day in stone and earthworks.
  • Work Efficiency: With a soil ripper, it can dig over 1,000 cubic meters of earth and stone per day. Paired with a Komatsu PC220-8 equipped with a breaker and a loader, they can produce over 300 cubic meters of rough stone daily, bringing in significant revenue.
Fuel Consumption:
In the mountainous terrain, Old Truck typically uses the excavator at 8 throttle bars, consuming 28 liters per hour. This fuel consumption is relatively low for a 300-ton class excavator.
Product Performance and Issues:
  • Engine: At 1,900 hours, the thermostat in the engine failed, which was repaired at a minimal cost. After 5,000 hours, the machine experienced a loss of power. After servicing, including adjusting the fuel pump and replacing six plungers and six injectors (costing 3,900 yuan), the issue was resolved. It was later found that the issue was due to excessive water in the fuel, and after paying more attention to fuel quality, similar issues didn’t occur again.
  • Hydraulic System: No major problems reported.
  • Other Issues: The original bucket’s blade mount experienced issues, and the dealer replaced it once. Welding repairs were also frequent, with total costs amounting to over 10,000 yuan. These issues were largely due to the harsh working conditions in stone excavation.
In June 2009, Old Truck bought a soil ripper (also known as a rock splitter) from Chengdu for 10,000 yuan. This significantly improved his work efficiency, especially in mixed stone and earth sites. The ripper helps to loosen large stones from the soil, which can then be cleaned by the excavator bucket.
Dealer and After-Sales Service:
Old Truck is very satisfied with the Doosan dealer, Chengdu Doosan Construction Machinery Co., Ltd. As a major customer, he enjoys prompt and professional after-sales service. The dealer’s responsiveness has been a key factor in his continued use of Doosan equipment.
Parts:
Old Truck appreciates the affordability of Doosan parts. Compared to other aftermarket parts stores, Doosan’s parts are more affordable, which makes repairs and replacements cost-effective. Most of the spare parts for his machines are purchased directly from the dealer.
Conclusion:
Old Truck is extremely satisfied with the performance of the Doosan DH300LC-7. The excavator is durable and reliable, and despite a few minor issues, the machine has proven to be a solid investment. The after-sales service is timely, and the affordability of parts has been an added bonus, helping Old Truck to generate significant income from his excavator.
When asked about his future excavator purchase plans, Old Truck mentioned he is considering the Doosan DX225LC or the Kobelco SK200-8. He favors Doosan because of the positive experience he’s had with his current fleet, while he is also intrigued by the speed and fuel efficiency of the Kobelco excavators, which have gained a strong reputation on the job sites.

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  Doosan DH55GOLD Excavator Review: A User's Experience
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 05:10 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

In this interview, we explore the experience of a Doosan DH55GOLD excavator owner from Shandong, China, a member known as "boshan55." He became a member in October 2009 while studying in South Korea. Growing up with a keen interest in excavators due to his family's influence, he returned to China in 2010 and chose to start his own excavation rental business. His family previously owned a Komatsu PC55MR, and after returning, he decided to invest in a Doosan DH55GOLD. As a 1980s generation excavator owner with overseas study experience, boshan55’s story offers valuable insights into the excavation rental industry.
Purchase Details:

  • Purchase Date: April 2025
  • Price: 350,000 RMB (with a 20% down payment, financed over 3 years)
  • Working Hours: 620 hours
  • Reason for Choice: Before purchasing the Doosan DH55GOLD, boshan55 considered an 8-ton Kubota KX185. However, due to limited funds and the small size of the KX155 (a tail swing machine), he opted for the 5-ton Doosan DH55GOLD. He chose Doosan for its affordable price, low maintenance costs, and availability of reasonably priced parts.
Despite the initial excitement about the purchase, boshan55 faced some disappointments during the transaction. He encountered discrepancies in the price quoted by the dealer before signing the contract, which ended up including an unexpected 8,000 RMB guarantee fee that was never mentioned. He also received a promise for a free hydraulic hammer and a washing machine, which were never delivered. Furthermore, the delivery date was delayed by half a month, which also caused frustration as the dealer failed to pay the promised penalty for the delay.
Work Conditions:
  • Primary Tasks: The Doosan DH55GOLD is primarily used for small-scale site jobs, including foundation work, leveling, and clearing debris. Occasionally, it is used for road repairs and agricultural water conservancy projects.
Work Efficiency:
  • Speed: The Doosan DH55GOLD has a relatively fast swing speed, but its arm and bucket movements are slow, leading to a perceived lack of efficiency. On some occasions, supervisors on the worksite mistakenly believed the machine was deliberately delaying work. Boshan55 laughs about it, saying, "The machine just can’t move faster; that’s its design." Comparing it to his Komatsu PC55-MR, the difference in speed is quite noticeable.
Fuel Consumption:
  • Fuel Usage: The fuel consumption is approximately 4.5 liters per hour under full load, meaning that a 500 RMB fuel cost lasts for about two days of work.
Product Performance and Issues:
  • Engine: As a new machine, the engine has not had significant problems, except for an incident where the shutdown pull-cord fell off, which was quickly resolved.
  • Hydraulic System: No major issues have occurred with the hydraulic system thus far.
  • Other Problems: There have been issues with greasing the arm and bucket joints, where the grease gun couldn’t inject grease. Despite reporting the issue, it took a week for the dealer to respond. After five hours of attempted repairs, the dealer was unable to resolve the issue and even damaged a grease gun. The part required for the repair was unavailable, and as of now, the problem remains unresolved.
Dealer and After-Sales Service:
  • Dealer Experience: Boshan55 has been disappointed with the dealer, Shandong Yonghong Engineering Machinery Co., Ltd. From broken promises during the purchase process to subpar after-sales service, his experience with Doosan’s dealer has left him disillusioned. He compares the service unfavorably with the other brands he owns, citing the slow response to issues and lack of professionalism.
Parts:
  • Parts Availability: Boshan55 mentions that Doosan parts are reasonably priced compared to other brands, which was a key factor in his decision to purchase this model. However, the overall experience with parts has not been entirely smooth.
Overall Evaluation:
Despite Doosan’s high market share in China, boshan55’s experience has been mixed. Initially, he had a favorable impression of Doosan, but his dealings with the dealer have left him feeling frustrated. He points out that, if the situation isn’t resolved, he wouldn’t consider purchasing Doosan machines again and would advise his friends and family against doing so. In an industry where user reputation is crucial, the rise of domestic brands with better customer service has challenged Korean manufacturers like Doosan. Boshan55’s experience highlights the importance of maintaining good communication and reliable service to keep customer loyalty intact.
It’s hoped that Doosan and its dealers can address these issues and improve customer satisfaction, ensuring the brand remains a strong contender in the Chinese market’s excavator segment.

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  Doosan DH220LC-7 Excavator Review: Insights from an Experienced User
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 05:09 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

Doosan is a well-established brand in the Chinese market, with the DH220LC-7 being one of their top-selling models. Today, we interview a seasoned excavator user, Wang Zipan (referred to as “Mr. Wang”), a former military officer turned business owner who now runs a large fleet of construction machinery. In addition to operating dozens of excavators, Mr. Wang is also the exclusive regional distributor for a certain brand of breaker hammers. His journey in the excavator business offers valuable insights for users across the industry.
Purchase Details

  • Purchase Date: September 20, 2006
  • Payment Method: Installments
  • Purchase Price: 780,000 RMB, with a 20% down payment and the balance paid in two years
  • Reason for Purchase: When choosing an excavator, Mr. Wang considered three brands: Caterpillar, Volvo, and Doosan. Ultimately, he selected Doosan due to its competitive pricing, which offered a faster return on investment and lower risk for a first-time purchase. Over time, he also purchased other models such as the Doosan DH225LC-7, Caterpillar 320D, and Komatsu PC220-8.
Work Conditions
  • Primary Work: The Doosan DH220LC-7 is primarily used for earthwork and rockwork. Mr. Wang’s machine is frequently employed in road construction and local aluminum mining for rockwork.
Work Efficiency
  • According to Mr. Wang, the Doosan DH220LC-7 operates relatively slowly compared to other machines on the same site, especially when compared to Caterpillar and Komatsu machines. However, overall, its work efficiency is still adequate for most projects.
Fuel Consumption
  • Since most of the work is contracted out to the site, with the site covering fuel costs, the Doosan DH220LC-7 has demonstrated good fuel efficiency. Under full load, it consumes 17-18 liters per hour, which is approximately 5-6 liters less than his Komatsu PC220-8, indicating solid fuel economy.
Performance Issues
  • Engine: To date, the engine has not experienced any major issues and performs reliably.
  • Hydraulic System: After 800 operating hours, the hydraulic system showed some oil leakage at the main pump and distributor valve, but it did not affect the machine’s operation.
After-Sales Service
  • Doosan’s authorized dealer in Henan is Qianlima Engineering Machinery Co., Ltd., one of China’s largest equipment dealers. Mr. Wang comments that their after-sales service is generally good, with timely responses thanks to the dealer’s broad coverage. Despite this, most of the maintenance work is done in-house, reflecting the growing scale and professional development of Mr. Wang’s rental business.
Parts Procurement
  • Mr. Wang shared that, with extensive knowledge about his equipment, he no longer relies on the dealer for parts after the warranty expires. Instead, he directly sources parts from subcontracted manufacturers, as many parts are not produced by the original manufacturers but outsourced to third parties. By doing so, Mr. Wang saves a significant amount on parts costs. His strong in-house repair capabilities and deep understanding of the equipment allow him to avoid the high prices set by manufacturers and dealers, which is a lesson worth learning for other users.
Overall Assessment
  • Overall, the Doosan DH220LC-7 is a reliable and stable machine, well-suited for earth and rockwork, especially for those entering the excavator market. While its work speed may not be the fastest, it offers excellent fuel economy, performance stability, and good after-sales service. For new users or small-to-medium businesses, the DH220LC-7 is an excellent option.
Mr. Wang’s experiences provide valuable lessons for excavator users, particularly regarding parts procurement and maintenance practices. His approach to cost-saving and equipment management is a model that many other operators can learn from.

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  User Review of Komatsu PC200-8 Excavator After 6,000+ Operating Hours
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 05:07 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

This review focuses on the Komatsu PC200-8 excavator, a machine used by the owner "Komatsu-8" from Tangshan, Hebei, who also operates two other machines: a Caterpillar 345D and a Caterpillar 320C. After using the PC200-8 for over 6,000 hours, the user shares valuable insights into the excavator's performance, fuel consumption, and maintenance issues.
Purchase Details:

  • Purchase Date: January 2008
  • Dealer: Hebei Shijiazhuang Tianyuan, an authorized Komatsu dealer
  • Purchase Price: ¥985,000 (full payment)
  • Current Operating Hours: 6,080 hours
  • Common Applications: Mainly used for earthmoving tasks such as roadwork and foundation digging, with rare encounters in rock excavation.
Work Efficiency:
  • The PC200-8 has proven efficient for tasks like loading soft soil. The user reports that it can load a 23 cubic meter truck in 3-4 minutes, with the exception of some models by Sumitomo, which are slightly faster. Overall, this Komatsu excavator performs well in terms of speed on-site.
Fuel Consumption:
  • Full Load (A mode): 19 liters per hour
  • Economy Mode (E mode): 17 liters per hour
    • The excavator uses a fuel-injected engine, which is sensitive to fuel quality.
Performance Issues and Maintenance:
  • Engine Issues:
    • At 3,681 operating hours, three of the injector nozzles failed due to poor fuel quality, costing ¥5,690 per nozzle to replace. The user had to use the dealer’s service center because of the urgency, although the price felt high.
  • Hydraulic System:
    • The hydraulic cylinders, including the boom and bucket cylinders, have become severely discolored (turned black), although the hydraulic oil has been changed at 4,950 hours as per the service provider’s recommendation. Despite the discoloration, the oil temperature remains normal, and the user has not noticed any leaks or performance issues.
    • The user continues to work with the dealer to address the issue of the blackened cylinders, though the dealer has not provided a satisfactory explanation.
Dealer Service:
  • The user appreciates the timely service from Komatsu's Hebei dealer, Shijiazhuang Tianyuan. The company provides fast response times, often resolving issues within an hour of the user's call, thanks to the proximity of the dealership.
Parts and Pricing:
  • Parts Pricing:
    • One significant drawback is the cost of replacement parts, especially for the fuel-injection system. The user finds the price of replacement parts to be unreasonably high, particularly because of the fuel-injected engine.
  • Injector Nozzles:
    • As mentioned, the injector nozzles cost ¥5,690 each, which the user feels reflects high dealer profits.
Overall Evaluation:
  • Performance: The Komatsu PC200-8 is efficient and delivers high productivity on the job site. The user is generally satisfied with its performance, citing good working speed and reliable dealer service.
  • Areas for Improvement: The fuel consumption is higher than expected, and parts costs—especially for fuel injectors—are considered excessively high. The user hopes Komatsu and its dealers can better consider customer concerns about pricing and make adjustments accordingly.
Overall, despite some drawbacks, the Komatsu PC200-8 has proven to be a reliable machine with solid performance for various construction tasks.

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  Komatsu's Upgraded Crawler Transporter: The CD60R-3
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 04:40 PM - Forum: Equipment Market News - No Replies

Komatsu has recently unveiled an upgraded version of its 6-ton full rotation crawler transporter (also known as the 360-degree rotating crawler transporter), which will be sold as the "CD60R-3" starting from June 2025. The product was showcased at the Japan International Construction Machinery and Surveying Expo (CSPI-EXPO) held from June 18 to 21.

   

Product Overview:
Komatsu first launched the full rotation crawler transporter, CD60R-1, in 1996. The model quickly became popular for tasks like land leveling, farmland reclamation, forestry road construction, and river engineering, especially in non-paved terrains. Its durability, 360-degree rotation functionality, and compact design, which allows operation in tight spaces, have made it highly favored by users. Over the years, the demand for the CD60R-1 has also grown in post-disaster reconstruction projects.
The CD60R-3 features a new and upgraded engine, offering higher output power and improved fuel efficiency. This enhances both the economic performance and environmental sustainability of the machine. Additionally, the redesigned engine layout has significantly improved the driver’s visibility on the right side of the vehicle. New features like surrounding surveillance cameras, digital tilt angle displays, and maintenance-free batteries have also been added to boost safety and convenience, meeting customer needs more precisely.
Key Features:
1. Environmental and Economic Efficiency:

  • New Engine Power Boost: The new engine delivers an 8% increase in power while reducing fuel consumption. It is equipped with the SAA4D107E-5 engine, meeting the non-road mobile machinery emissions standards.
  • Automatic Power Reduction: The machine is equipped with automatic power reduction and idling stop features, which lower the engine RPM or stop the engine during idle times, minimizing unnecessary fuel consumption.
2. Safety and Reliability:
  • Improved Visibility: The engine layout has been redesigned to improve the driver’s visibility, enhancing safety during operation. The CD60R-3 comes standard with rear and right-side surveillance cameras, eliminating blind spots.
  • Digital Tilt Angle Display & Warning Alerts: A built-in Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) provides real-time digital tilt angle readings. If the machine tilts too far, the display will change color and an alarm will sound. The machine also features a warning when the bucket is raised but not lowered, reducing the risk of operational negligence.
3. Durability and Maintenance:
  • Overload Warning System: The machine is equipped with an overload warning light that displays the load status in real time, preventing potential safety hazards and damage caused by overloading.
  • Maintenance-Free Battery: The CD60R-3 is equipped with a maintenance-free battery that doesn’t require electrolyte checking, and an indicator light clearly shows its status. Additionally, the optimized battery compartment design makes it easier to maintain the vehicle.
4. Transport Efficiency:
  • Lightweight Compact Design: With an overall weight of less than 10 tons, the lightweight design offers flexibility in transport options. It also performs exceptionally well in narrow spaces, providing excellent maneuverability and adaptability on-site.
Conclusion:
The new Komatsu CD60R-3 crawler transporter continues to embody the company’s commitment to innovation in construction machinery. With its enhanced safety, improved efficiency, and durable design, this machine is set to meet the demanding needs of modern construction projects, especially in challenging and confined environments.

   

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  Zoomlion’s Giant Crane Supports 2030 World Cup Stadium Construction
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 04:34 PM - Forum: Equipment Market News - No Replies

Under the scorching sun of Morocco, the giant arm of the Zoomlion ZCC9800W crawler crane slowly moves, precisely lifting hundreds of tons of steel structures into place, contributing to the construction of the Rabat Sports Stadium for the 2030 FIFA World Cup. This stadium will welcome global football fans during the upcoming tournament.

   

As the 2030 World Cup draws closer, host country Morocco is accelerating its stadium construction efforts. The Zoomlion ZCC9800W crawler crane, a "giant" and "star product" in the construction machinery field, is playing a central role in the project, showcasing exceptional lifting capabilities on Moroccan construction sites. The equipment has received high praise from the project team: "Its overall lifting performance far surpasses other products in the same category."

   

The construction of the stadium involves lifting numerous heavy-duty equipment and components into precise locations. With its powerful lifting capacity and stability, Zoomlion's equipment handles these challenging tasks with ease. After completing the major lifting tasks at the Rabat Sports Stadium, this "Made-in-China" crane, weighing in at over 1,000 tons, will move on to assist in the construction of the world’s largest football stadium, the Hassan II Stadium.

   

The ZCC9800W is not only active in sports stadium construction but has also made its mark in wind turbine and petrochemical lifting projects. The crane has proven its resilience in extreme environments, operating stably in the frigid -40°C temperatures of Inner Mongolia and lifting with precision even in wind speeds exceeding 8m/s in Vietnam. Furthermore, the ZCC9800W was the first of its kind to enter the European market, proving that Chinese manufacturing has a strong voice in the high-end equipment sector.

In recent years, Zoomlion has continued to make strides in the large-tonnage crane sector, producing world-class crawler cranes and all-terrain cranes that have been highly successful globally. These products redefine "high-end equipment" with their extraordinary technical strength, setting new benchmarks for large-tonnage cranes worldwide. Zoomlion's growth reflects the rise of China’s high-end manufacturing in the global construction machinery industry.

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  Sumitomo SH210A5 Excavator: User Report
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-28-2025, 04:25 PM - Forum: Operator Talking - No Replies

This report focuses on the experiences of a user who works as a project supervisor. After graduating from university, he developed a strong interest in excavators commonly used on construction sites. In 2008, he bought a second-hand Hitachi ZX225US zero-tail excavator. Due to frequent minor issues, he eventually sold it for 280,000 RMB. In 2010, he purchased a brand-new Sumitomo SH210A5 excavator and began his journey in the excavator rental industry. Let's take a closer look at the usage details of his SH210A5 excavator.
Purchase Information
When purchasing the excavator, the user considered three different models: the Kato HD820-R (his first choice), the Kobelco SK200 Super 8, and the Sumitomo SH210A5. Although the Kato HD820-R was his preferred option, it was ultimately dismissed due to high down payment requirements and unfavorable financing terms. The Kobelco SK200 Super 8 was also ruled out because of concerns over the quality of its domestically produced engine and hydraulic components. The Sumitomo SH210A5, on the other hand, was appealing due to its fully imported core components from Japan and flexible financing options, which led to its final selection.

  • Down Payment: 270,000 RMB
  • Loan Amount: 60,000 RMB (to be paid off in one year)
  • Total Price: 1,090,000 RMB
Working Conditions
Since purchasing the excavator, it has primarily been used for bulk earthworks and stoneworks, with work charged on a daily basis. The user mentioned that the SH210A5 performs exceptionally well when doing earthworks, with fast speed and sufficient power. However, when working on stoneworks, the user noticed some wobbling at the junction of the boom and arm, which made the machine feel less solid compared to a similar-sized Caterpillar model on the same site. He suspected this could be due to differences in the steel quality.
Work Efficiency
The Sumitomo SH210A5 demonstrates high efficiency in daily operations. Whether loading trucks or digging, it performs the fastest on the construction site. The user stated, "None of the same models on the site can outperform my Sumitomo 210," confirming the machine’s speed advantage.
Fuel Consumption
The fuel consumption for the SH210A5 is relatively low compared to other similar models. The excavator has three different working modes:
  • A Mode: Light mode with lower fuel consumption.
  • H Mode: Speed mode, used for faster operations.
  • SP Mode: A combination of speed and power.
In A Mode, the fuel cost is approximately 100 RMB/hour when running the air conditioner. The user noted that speed is very fast in this mode, but they were advised by the operator not to use H Mode too much as it runs too fast, and SP Mode is rarely used. The fuel consumption in A Mode provides an excellent balance of efficiency and power.
Performance and Issues
  • Engine: No faults or issues have occurred with the engine since purchase.
  • Hydraulic System: The hydraulic system has not experienced any significant issues.
  • Chassis: No faults have been observed with the chassis.
  • Cab: The cab is luxurious and equipped with a large window for excellent visibility. It also has a small bench behind the seat for apprentices, with hooks for hanging clothes and a small refrigerator. The design is very user-friendly. However, the suspension and sealing of the cab are not as good, which makes the operator feel significant jolts when doing stonework. The seat’s comfort is not as good as that of Hitachi or Caterpillar machines. Additionally, the sound system is not loud enough, which can be a problem for the operator who enjoys listening to music while working.
After-Sales Service
The Sumitomo SH210A5’s after-sales service is provided by Jiangxi Zhongrui Engineering Machinery Co., Ltd. The user is quite satisfied with the dealer's customer service. Once, when the walking alarm light was not functioning, the after-sales staff arrived at the construction site at 10 PM, even though the issue turned out to be a misunderstanding (the operator didn’t want to work late). Despite the false alarm, the dealer’s willingness to respond so promptly left a positive impression.
Summary
Thanks to its flexible purchase policy, fully imported core components, and good fuel economy, the Sumitomo SH210A5 was a solid choice for the user. Since its purchase, the excavator has shown reliable performance, excellent efficiency, and a low failure rate. Although there are some minor issues, such as the cab's comfort and the sound system, the overall performance has been impressive. The user plans to continue monitoring the machine's performance, and we will keep you updated with any further feedback.

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