Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Bobcat T200 Engine Shutdown Failure and Electrical Diagnostics
#1
The Bobcat T200 and Its Electronic Control System
The Bobcat T200 compact track loader, introduced in the early 2000s, was part of Bobcat’s push toward electronically controlled machines with enhanced operator interfaces. Equipped with a Deutz diesel engine and a keyless start panel, the T200 offered improved security and simplified operation. Bobcat, founded in North Dakota in 1947, became a global leader in compact equipment, and the T200 was one of its early ventures into integrating electronic control modules (ECMs) with traditional mechanical systems.
Despite its innovations, the T200’s reliance on electronic shutdown mechanisms introduced new challenges—particularly when the ECM fails to send the correct signal to the fuel shutoff solenoid.
Symptoms of Shutdown Failure
A common issue reported by operators is the engine continuing to run after pressing the stop button on the keyless panel. In these cases:
  • The machine’s systems shut down, but the engine remains running
  • The fuel shutoff solenoid does not receive the signal to close
  • Jumping the fuel solenoid relay manually will stop the engine
  • The control relay and solenoid test as functional, but the ECM fails to trigger shutdown
This behavior points to a fault in the ECM or its communication with the relay circuit.
Understanding the Fuel Shutoff Circuit
The Deutz engine used in the T200 requires voltage to energize the fuel shutoff solenoid. When the machine is running, the ECM sends power to the fuel relay, which in turn energizes the solenoid. Removing voltage from the solenoid causes it to close, cutting off fuel and stopping the engine.
Key components include:
  • Fuel shutoff solenoid
  • Fuel relay (typically with five terminals: 30, 85, 86, 87, and 87a)
  • ECM output signal to relay terminal 86
  • Constant power to terminal 30
  • Ground at terminal 85
When the ECM fails to remove power from terminal 86, the relay remains energized, and the engine continues to run.
Diagnostic Steps and Field Testing
To isolate the fault:
  • Disconnect the fuel solenoid while the engine is running to confirm it is electrically controlled
  • Test voltage at the relay terminals with the key off—if terminal 86 remains powered, the ECM or harness is shorted
  • Inspect ground wires and connections for corrosion or loose contacts
  • Replace the fuel shutoff solenoid if it fails to respond to manual voltage changes
  • Check for two powered terminals at the relay when the key is off—this indicates a short in the controller or wiring
In one case, the issue was traced to a faulty solenoid despite initial tests showing continuity. Replacing the solenoid resolved the problem, though the operator noted the high cost of OEM parts and expressed preference for older Case models like the 1845C, which use simpler mechanical systems.
Alternative Solutions and Used Parts
For machines with aging ECMs, sourcing used controllers from salvage yards or Bobcat-specific recyclers can offer a cost-effective solution. However, compatibility must be verified using serial numbers and wiring diagrams. Some operators have retrofitted manual shutoff valves or bypass switches to regain control in emergencies, though this is not recommended for long-term use.
Preventive Measures and Recommendations
To avoid shutdown failures:
  • Inspect and clean electrical connectors quarterly
  • Replace relays and solenoids every 1,000 hours or as part of scheduled maintenance
  • Keep wiring diagrams and part numbers on hand for quick troubleshooting
  • Consider upgrading to newer Bobcat models with improved ECM diagnostics and CAN bus systems
Conclusion
The Bobcat T200’s shutdown failure highlights the trade-offs between electronic convenience and mechanical reliability. While the keyless panel and ECM offer streamlined operation, they also introduce points of failure that require careful diagnostics. For operators and technicians, understanding the fuel shutoff circuit and maintaining clean electrical connections are essential to keeping the machine responsive and safe. In compact equipment, even a single relay can determine whether the job ends smoothly—or not at all.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Bobcat T650 Fuel Blockage Troubleshooting MikePhua 0 209 01-07-2026, 06:22 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Engine Rattle After Oil Ingestion in a Skid Steer MikePhua 0 190 01-06-2026, 02:43 AM
Last Post: MikePhua
  JLG 660SJ Boom Lift Movement Failure MikePhua 0 255 01-04-2026, 06:25 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  John Deere 325 Electrical Failure and No‑Start Issues MikePhua 0 217 01-04-2026, 06:18 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Why an Engine Won’t Shut Off MikePhua 0 232 01-04-2026, 05:54 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Deere 750C Drive Failure Diagnosis MikePhua 0 274 12-30-2025, 08:48 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Cat CB64 Electrical Problem MikePhua 0 296 12-30-2025, 08:48 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Bobcat S205 High Speed Drive Switch Intermittent MikePhua 0 251 12-30-2025, 08:46 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Galion 503L Transmission Reverse Failure MikePhua 0 311 12-29-2025, 03:45 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  JCB 1CXT Fuse Failure Diagnosis MikePhua 0 232 12-29-2025, 03:43 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Bobcat 773 Starting Problems and Diagnostic Insights MikePhua 0 298 12-29-2025, 02:58 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Common Electrical Problems on the JCB 214 Series 3 MikePhua 0 281 12-27-2025, 07:18 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Genie Z25/45 Basket Rotation Failure MikePhua 0 335 12-27-2025, 07:15 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Wiring a DT466 Engine Installed in a Michigan Loader MikePhua 0 289 12-27-2025, 07:15 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  2004 CAT 420D Backhoe Electrical Starter Issue MikePhua 0 335 12-27-2025, 07:11 PM
Last Post: MikePhua

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)