Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Takeuchi TB135 Pilot Valve Delay and Hose Routing Errors
#1
Quick answer
A Takeuchi TB135 excavator showing delayed response in the left-hand pilot valve—especially during arm lowering and rotation—was ultimately traced to incorrectly routed hydraulic hoses during maintenance. Swapping the affected hoses restored normal function.
Takeuchi TB135 background and hydraulic control system
The Takeuchi TB135 is a compact hydraulic excavator introduced in the early 2000s, designed for utility trenching, landscaping, and light demolition. It features:
  • A closed-center hydraulic system
  • Dual pilot control valves for left and right joystick functions
  • A two-speed travel system
  • Swivel joint and undercarriage hoses routed through a central manifold
The pilot valves operate at low pressure, sending signals to the main control valve to actuate boom, arm, bucket, and swing functions. Each joystick controls a separate pilot valve, which in turn directs hydraulic flow to specific spools.
Symptoms of pilot valve malfunction
After replacing several hydraulic hoses—including those for the undercarriage, swivel joint, pilot valve, and two-speed travel—the operator noticed:
  • Delayed response when lowering the arm
  • Rotation function took several seconds to engage
  • Rotation speed and torque were normal once activated
  • Right-hand pilot valve worked flawlessly
  • Two-speed travel function remained operational
These symptoms suggested that pilot pressure was present, but the left-hand valve was not sending commands promptly. The issue was isolated to the left-hand pilot circuit.
Diagnostic process and pressure assumptions
Initial assumptions ruled out pressure loss, since the two-speed travel (also pilot-controlled) worked correctly. The operator inspected:
  • Hydraulic hose connections and seals: All appeared intact, with no visible leaks
  • Pilot valve block: No signs of external leakage or loose fittings
  • Blade function: When the blade raise command was held, rotation engaged immediately
This last observation was critical. It indicated that rotation and blade functions shared a hydraulic path or pump, and that blade activation primed the circuit for rotation.
Root cause and resolution
The issue was resolved by swapping two hydraulic hoses—likely those connected to the pilot valve or control block. Incorrect routing during maintenance had caused delayed signal transmission. Once corrected, arm lowering and rotation responded normally.
This type of error is common when hoses are replaced without labeling or photographing the original layout. Even minor misrouting can disrupt pilot signal timing, especially in systems with shared pump logic.
Recommendations for future maintenance
  • Label all hoses before removal: Use numbered tags or colored tape
  • Photograph hose routing and valve connections: Especially around the pilot valve block
  • Check function after each hose replacement: Don’t wait until all hoses are installed
  • Verify pilot pressure at each joystick: Use a low-pressure gauge if needed
  • Test blade and rotation together: Shared pump logic can reveal routing errors
Conclusion
The Takeuchi TB135’s pilot valve delay was caused by misrouted hydraulic hoses during routine maintenance. While the system retained pressure, incorrect hose placement disrupted signal timing. With careful inspection and hose swapping, full functionality was restored. This case underscores the importance of documentation and methodical reassembly in hydraulic systems.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Komatsu PC28UU-1 Hydraulic Pressure Loss Often Traced to Valve Block Mismatch or Relief Valve Limitations MikePhua 0 87 11-19-2025, 04:58 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Link‑Belt LS4300 CII Pilot Control Issue MikePhua 0 86 11-19-2025, 04:50 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  TB 035 Pilot Control Valve Solenoid – Troubleshooting Guide MikePhua 0 88 11-19-2025, 04:12 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Ford 555A Dump‑Valve Switch Wiring Explained MikePhua 0 82 11-19-2025, 04:06 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Caterpillar D6R XL II Transmission Slipping in Forward Gear Often Caused by Modulator Valve Failure or Hydraulic Contamination MikePhua 0 78 11-19-2025, 03:53 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Replacing Boom Cables on the Gradall 524 Telehandler Requires Precision and Awareness of Cable Routing Challenges MikePhua 0 85 11-19-2025, 03:47 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  CAT D6C LGP Blade Tilt Failure Often Caused by Disconnected Hydraulic Couplers or Valve Pressure Loss MikePhua 0 87 11-19-2025, 03:35 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Bobcat 763F Loader Slow Lift Arm Response Often Caused by Hydraulic Circuit Imbalance or Valve Bypass MikePhua 0 92 11-17-2025, 07:13 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Case 444C Loader Steering Issues Often Stem from Hydraulic Flow Disruptions or Steering Valve Wear MikePhua 0 102 11-17-2025, 07:12 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Case 580B Backhoe Boom Sagging Is Often Caused by Load Check Valve Leakage and Cylinder Barrel Damage MikePhua 0 96 11-17-2025, 06:31 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Caterpillar D5K Crank No Start Issue Often Linked to Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor or Relief Valve Malfunction MikePhua 0 77 11-17-2025, 06:30 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Stuck Lift Valve Spool on a Bobcat 763: Diagnosis and Solutions MikePhua 0 81 11-17-2025, 06:30 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Komatsu WA200PZ-6 Cab Heater Failure Often Caused by Coolant Flow Restriction or Valve Malfunction MikePhua 0 86 11-17-2025, 06:29 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Caterpillar 416 Shuttle Transmission Forward Gear Failure Often Caused by Internal Shuttle Valve Spring Damage MikePhua 0 89 11-17-2025, 05:51 PM
Last Post: MikePhua
  Slow Track Speed in the Takeuchi TB260 Often Points to Hydraulic Load Sensing or Control Signal Conflicts MikePhua 0 90 11-17-2025, 05:50 PM
Last Post: MikePhua

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)