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John Deere 120C No-Start Condition and Electrical Diagnostic Strategy
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The 120C and Deere’s Mid-Size Excavator Lineage
The John Deere 120C hydraulic excavator was introduced in the early 2000s as part of Deere’s C-series, designed to bridge the gap between compact and full-size machines. With an operating weight around 27,000 pounds and a 4-cylinder turbocharged diesel engine producing roughly 85 horsepower, the 120C became a popular choice for utility trenching, site prep, and demolition. Its blend of mechanical simplicity and hydraulic precision made it a staple in rental fleets and owner-operator yards.
John Deere’s construction division, with roots dating back to the 1950s, built the 120C to be serviceable, durable, and responsive. The machine features pilot-operated hydraulics, a swing motor with planetary reduction, and a straightforward electrical system—though age and wear can introduce intermittent faults, especially in starting circuits.
Symptoms of No-Start and Initial Observations
A no-start condition in the 120C typically presents as:
  • Key turns but starter does not engage
  • Dash lights may illuminate or flicker
  • No click from starter solenoid
  • Fuel pump may or may not prime
  • Machine may start intermittently after multiple attempts
  • No fault codes displayed on monitor (if equipped)
Key terminology:
  • Starter solenoid: An electromagnetic switch that engages the starter motor when energized.
  • Neutral safety switch: A sensor that prevents engine start unless the travel levers are in neutral.
  • ECU (Engine Control Unit): The electronic module managing engine and electrical functions.
  • CAN bus: A communication protocol linking electronic components, used in newer machines.
One operator in Alberta reported that his 120C refused to start after a rainstorm. After checking fuses and relays, he discovered a corroded ground strap beneath the cab—an issue that had silently developed over years of vibration and moisture exposure.
Battery and Grounding Integrity
Electrical reliability begins with clean, stable power. Even with sufficient voltage, poor connections can prevent current flow to the starter and ECU.
Inspection checklist:
  • Measure battery voltage under load (should exceed 12.4V)
  • Inspect terminals for corrosion or loose clamps
  • Check ground strap from battery to frame and engine block
  • Use a multimeter to test voltage drop during crank attempt
  • Clean and retighten all ground points with dielectric grease
Recommendations:
  • Replace battery if voltage drops below 10V during crank
  • Use marine-grade terminals for vibration resistance
  • Add secondary ground strap to improve ECU stability
  • Avoid jump-starting with high-amperage trucks—use regulated booster packs
One technician in Georgia found that a corroded ground strap near the starter caused intermittent no-crank. After replacement and cleaning, the machine started reliably even in cold weather.
Starter Circuit and Relay Testing
If battery and grounds are confirmed, the next step is to test the starter circuit.
Components to inspect:
  • Starter relay in fuse panel
  • Ignition switch or start button
  • Wiring harness from ECU to relay
  • Starter solenoid and motor
Testing procedure:
  • Listen for relay click during start attempt
  • Swap relay with known good unit
  • Use jumper wire to bypass relay and test starter response
  • Measure voltage at solenoid terminal during crank
  • Bench test starter motor if removed
Solutions:
  • Replace starter if draw exceeds 300 amps or fails bench test
  • Use OEM relays with correct amperage rating
  • Inspect harness for rodent damage or abrasion
  • Add relay bypass switch for emergency use (with caution)
One operator in Maine traced his no-start issue to a failed relay that showed continuity but failed under load. After replacement, the machine started instantly.
Safety Interlocks and Sensor Verification
The 120C includes multiple safety interlocks to prevent unintended starts. These include:
  • Neutral safety switch on travel levers
  • Hydraulic lockout lever position sensor
  • Cab door or seat switch (on some variants)
  • Throttle position sensor
Diagnostic strategy:
  • Ensure travel levers are in neutral
  • Verify hydraulic lockout lever is in correct position
  • Check for sensor clicks or resistance changes
  • Use diagnostic tool to monitor interlock status
  • Bypass switch temporarily for testing (only in controlled conditions)
Solutions:
  • Replace worn neutral switch with OEM part
  • Adjust lever linkage to ensure sensor engagement
  • Clean sensor contacts with contact cleaner
  • Recalibrate throttle sensor if values are erratic
One fleet in Ontario added a seat switch override for cold-weather starts. The modification was approved by their safety officer and included a timed relay to prevent misuse.
ECU and Wiring Harness Considerations
While the 120C is not fully CAN bus integrated, its ECU still governs start logic and sensor input. Faults in the wiring harness or ECU can mimic mechanical failure.
Inspection steps:
  • Scan ECU for fault codes using Deere diagnostic tool
  • Inspect connectors for bent pins or moisture
  • Test continuity across harness segments
  • Reflash ECU firmware if corrupted
  • Replace ECU only after ruling out all other causes
Preventive tips:
  • Avoid pressure washing near ECU and connectors
  • Use dielectric grease on all harness plugs
  • Keep software updated per dealer recommendations
  • Monitor harness movement during operation to prevent abrasion
One technician in Texas found that a software update resolved a no-start issue caused by throttle sensor miscommunication. The ECU had locked out the starter due to a false high-idle signal.
Conclusion
A no-start condition in the John Deere 120C is rarely caused by a single fault. It’s often a cascade of electrical, mechanical, and sensor interactions. By methodically checking battery integrity, safety interlocks, starter circuits, and ECU logic, technicians can isolate the issue and restore reliable operation. In the world of mid-size excavators, starting power is more than a key—it’s a system, and every connection counts.
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