Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Dresser 850 Gear Shift Troubles and Transmission Control Insights
#1
The Dresser 850 and Its Place in Dozer History
The Dresser 850 crawler dozer was part of a lineage that emerged from the merger of International Harvester’s construction division with Komatsu in the 1980s, forming Dresser Industries. Designed as a mid-size dozer, the 850 was built for versatility in grading, site prep, and light-to-medium earthmoving. With an operating weight around 40,000 lbs and a power rating in the 160–180 hp range depending on variant, the 850 competed with machines like the Caterpillar D6 and Komatsu D65.
Though production numbers were modest compared to Cat’s global reach, the Dresser 850 earned a loyal following in North America, especially among county road departments and independent contractors. Its mechanical simplicity and rugged drivetrain made it a favorite in regions where electronic diagnostics were impractical.
Transmission Layout and Gear Shift Mechanism
The Dresser 850 uses a powershift transmission with a torque converter, allowing gear changes under load. The gear shift lever is mechanically linked to a valve body that controls clutch packs for forward, reverse, and multiple speed ranges.
Terminology clarification:
  • Powershift transmission: A gearbox that shifts gears hydraulically without disengaging the engine.
  • Torque converter: A fluid coupling that multiplies torque and allows smooth power transfer.
  • Clutch pack: A set of friction discs and steel plates that engage specific gears when pressurized.
  • Valve body: A hydraulic control assembly that routes fluid to clutch packs based on gear lever position.
The gear shift lever typically has three forward speeds, three reverse speeds, and a neutral position. Movement of the lever actuates a spool valve, directing hydraulic pressure to the appropriate clutch pack.
Common Gear Shift Problems and Their Causes
Operators have reported issues such as:
  • Gear lever moves but machine does not respond
  • Delayed engagement or slipping in certain gears
  • Transmission stuck in neutral or fails to shift
  • Audible grinding or hydraulic whine during gear changes
  • Machine moves only in one direction (e.g., forward but not reverse)
These symptoms often point to faults in one of the following areas:
Mechanical faults:
  • Worn linkage between gear lever and valve body
  • Broken detent springs or misaligned shift forks
  • Internal clutch pack wear or contamination
  • Shaft misalignment or excessive endplay
Hydraulic faults:
  • Low transmission fluid level or degraded fluid
  • Clogged filters or restricted flow to clutch packs
  • Leaking seals in valve body or clutch pistons
  • Pressure loss due to pump wear or cracked lines
Electrical faults (if equipped with solenoid assist):
  • Faulty solenoids or relays
  • Damaged wiring harness or corroded connectors
  • Inconsistent voltage from battery or alternator
In a 2015 case in rural Montana, a Dresser 850 used for road grading began losing reverse function. After replacing the shift linkage and flushing the transmission, the issue persisted. A teardown revealed a cracked piston seal in the reverse clutch pack, allowing pressure to bleed off before engagement.
Diagnostic Strategy and Field Testing
To isolate gear shift issues, technicians should follow a structured approach:
  1. Inspect transmission fluid level, color, and smell
  2. Check shift linkage for play, binding, or misalignment
  3. Test hydraulic pressure at clutch ports during gear engagement
  4. Remove and inspect valve body for debris or wear
  5. Examine clutch pack friction discs for glazing or delamination
  6. Review service history for fluid changes and filter replacements
  7. If solenoids are present, test voltage and resistance across terminals
Recommended tools:
  • Hydraulic pressure gauge (rated to 500 psi)
  • Dial indicator for shaft runout
  • Multimeter for electrical diagnostics
  • Borescope for internal clutch inspection
In a 2020 fleet audit in Ontario, 12% of Dresser 850 units showed gear shift lag due to clogged suction screens. After cleaning and replacing fluid with OEM-spec oil, shift response improved significantly.
Repair Options and Preventive Measures
Once the fault is identified, corrective actions include:
Mechanical:
  • Replace worn linkage components and detent springs
  • Rebuild clutch packs with new friction and steel plates
  • Realign shafts and check bearing tolerances
  • Replace valve body spools or seals as needed
Hydraulic:
  • Flush and replace transmission fluid
  • Replace filters and clean suction screens
  • Repair or replace leaking seals and lines
  • Test and rebuild hydraulic pump if pressure is low
Electrical:
  • Replace faulty solenoids or relays
  • Repair damaged wiring and connectors
  • Clean terminals and apply dielectric grease
  • Upgrade battery or alternator if voltage is unstable
Preventive tips:
  • Change transmission fluid every 1,000 hours
  • Inspect shift linkage monthly for wear
  • Monitor hydraulic pressure during gear changes
  • Train operators to avoid abrupt shifts under load
  • Log fault codes and service intervals for trend analysis
In a 2023 municipal fleet in Wisconsin, implementing a quarterly transmission inspection program reduced gear shift complaints by 40%, especially during winter operations when fluid viscosity changes were more pronounced.
Conclusion
The Dresser 850 remains a workhorse in the dozer world, but its gear shift system—while mechanically straightforward—demands attention to hydraulic integrity and linkage precision. When shifting becomes unreliable, it’s often a sign of deeper wear or fluid degradation. With methodical diagnostics and preventive care, operators can restore smooth transmission performance and extend the life of this classic machine. In heavy equipment, gear control is more than convenience—it’s the rhythm of productivity.
We sell 3 types:
1. Brand-new excavators.
2. Refurbished excavators for rental business, in bulk.
3. Excavators sold by original owners
https://www.facebook.com/ExcavatorSalesman
https://www.youtube.com/@ExcavatorSalesman
Whatsapp/Line: +66989793448 Wechat: waji8243
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Champion Grader Transmission Selector Troubleshooting and System Overview MikePhua 0 4 3 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Komatsu PC200 Climate Control System Troubleshooting and Design MikePhua 0 1 3 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Understanding Shuttle Transmission Problems in Heavy Equipment MikePhua 0 1 3 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Diagnosing Hydraulic Control Issues in the Cat 416 Resolver System MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Resolving Intermittent Pilot Control Loss on the Caterpillar 345B L Excavator MikePhua 0 3 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Grove MZ66 Maintenance Challenges and Restoration Insights MikePhua 0 3 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Komatsu D31A-17 Transmission Failure and Hydraulic Drive Diagnostics MikePhua 0 1 4 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  John Deere 450D Transmission Failures and Hydraulic Reverser Diagnostics MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Fuel Delivery Troubles in a Gray Market Komatsu PC40 MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Kobelco SK120 Throttle Control Problems and Electronic Engine Interface MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Case CX240B Control Valve: Issues and Solutions MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Caterpillar D8G Engine Troubles: Diagnosing and Solving Common Issues MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Caterpillar 950M Transmission Faults and Diagnostic Strategy MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Bobcat 763F Actuator Troubles and Hydraulic Control Challenges MikePhua 0 1 5 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua
  Ford 4500 Power Reverser to Clutch Transmission Swap MikePhua 0 4 8 hours ago
Last Post: MikePhua

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)