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Evaluating a Used John Deere 27ZTS with Engine Issues
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The John Deere 27ZTS and Its Market Position
The John Deere 27ZTS is a compact zero-tail-swing excavator introduced in the early 2000s, designed for tight urban job sites, landscaping, and utility trenching. Built with a full cab, hydraulic pilot controls, and a robust undercarriage, the 27ZTS quickly became a popular choice among contractors and rental fleets. Its zero-tail-swing design allows the upper structure to rotate entirely within the track width, minimizing the risk of collision in confined spaces.
Powered by the Isuzu 3LD2 diesel engine, the 27ZTS delivers around 27 horsepower and is known for fuel efficiency and low emissions. Isuzu, a Japanese manufacturer with a long history in industrial engines, supplied powerplants for many Deere compact machines during this era. While the 3LD2 is generally reliable, it is sensitive to oil quality and maintenance intervals—neglect can lead to premature wear.
Common Symptoms of Engine Wear
In one case, a 2000-model 27ZTS with 2,200 hours was offered for sale at $10,000. The machine exhibited oil consumption and visible exhaust smoke, suggesting internal engine wear. The most likely culprit was worn piston rings, though other possibilities include:
  • Valve stem seal degradation
  • Cylinder wall scoring
  • Turbocharger oil leakage (if equipped)
  • PCV system malfunction
Terminology annotation:
  • Piston rings: Metal rings that seal the combustion chamber, control oil consumption, and transfer heat from the piston to the cylinder wall.
  • Valve stem seals: Rubber components that prevent oil from leaking into the combustion chamber through the valve guides.
  • PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation): A system that recirculates blow-by gases to reduce emissions and oil contamination.
Rebuild vs. Replacement Considerations
Rebuilding a small diesel engine like the Isuzu 3LD2 may seem straightforward, but hidden costs can escalate quickly. Parts availability, machining tolerances, and labor hours must be factored in. In many cases, a full engine replacement may be more economical and reliable.
Typical rebuild costs include:
  • Piston and ring set: $300–$500
  • Cylinder head reconditioning: $400–$800
  • Gasket kit: $150–$300
  • Labor (if outsourced): $1,000–$2,000
  • Miscellaneous (fluids, filters, belts): $200–$400
Total rebuild cost can range from $2,000 to $4,000 depending on region and parts source. A remanufactured engine may cost $3,500–$5,000 but offers warranty and reduced downtime.
One technician in Ontario shared that after rebuilding a 3LD2 with aftermarket parts, the engine ran well for 300 hours before developing oil pressure issues. He later discovered that the crankshaft journals had been undersized and improperly polished. A replacement engine resolved the problem permanently.
Negotiating the Purchase Price
Given the engine condition, offering $8,000 instead of the $10,000 asking price is reasonable. Buyers should factor in:
  • Cost of engine rebuild or replacement
  • Downtime during repair
  • Risk of hidden hydraulic or electrical issues
  • Resale value after restoration
If the seller accepts the lower offer, the buyer gains flexibility to invest in repairs without exceeding market value. Comparable machines in good condition typically sell for $14,000–$18,000 depending on region and hours.
Inspection Tips Before Purchase
Before committing to the purchase, conduct a thorough inspection:
  • Check engine oil for fuel dilution or metal particles
  • Inspect exhaust for blue smoke (oil burn) or white smoke (coolant leak)
  • Test hydraulic functions for smoothness and power
  • Verify track tension and undercarriage wear
  • Inspect electrical systems, especially hour meter and warning lights
If possible, perform a compression test or leak-down test to assess cylinder health. These tests can reveal ring wear, valve leakage, or head gasket failure.
Restoration Strategy and Long-Term Use
Once acquired, the machine can be restored in stages:
  • Remove engine and assess internal damage
  • Source OEM or high-quality aftermarket parts
  • Replace all seals, belts, and filters during rebuild
  • Flush hydraulic system and replace fluid
  • Inspect cooling system and replace thermostat and hoses
After restoration, the 27ZTS can serve reliably for thousands of hours in light to moderate duty. Its compact footprint and full cab make it ideal for residential excavation, utility trenching, and small-scale demolition.
Conclusion
Buying a used John Deere 27ZTS with engine issues can be a smart investment if approached with diligence and realistic expectations. The Isuzu 3LD2 engine, while compact and efficient, demands careful attention during rebuild. By negotiating a fair price and planning a methodical restoration, buyers can revive a capable machine and extend its service life. In the world of compact excavators, the 27ZTS remains a nimble and valuable asset—especially when its heart is rebuilt with care.
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