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A hydraulic excavator experiencing a slow-response in the left boom/arm when using the joystick—while all other hydraulic functions work normally—is often rooted in the pilot control circuit, a subtle yet essential hydraulic pathway that carries control pressure rather than power pressure.
Machine History & Mechanics
In this case, the machine is a 2002 Thomas (NAGANO) TS45-S excavator, powered by an Isuzu engine and Nachi hydraulic system, with approximately 7,500 operating hours—a respectable number for farm use. The boom, arm, and bucket cylinders are all in good condition, suggesting the issue lies not in the heavy-duty components but in a control circuit. Swapping between ISO and SAE joystick control standards shifts the slowdown from the arm to the boom, reinforcing that the fault lies in the pilot circuit running through the left joystick.
Possible Causes & Testing Sequence
The slow boom/arm movement likely stems from reduced pilot pressure due to one of several issues. A logical diagnostic roadmap includes:
Broader Hydraulic Joystick Troubleshooting Insights
Similar issues in other hydraulic machines offer reinforcing clues:
Pilot systems handle the fine control signals in hydraulic excavators—lesser flow here means exactly what you’re seeing: precise functions go sluggish while the heavy-lift components may still seem to work okay under manual override. By methodically tracing pressure through the control circuit and isolating components, you’re well on the way to restoring full hydraulic responsiveness—without unnecessary major component replacements.
Machine History & Mechanics
In this case, the machine is a 2002 Thomas (NAGANO) TS45-S excavator, powered by an Isuzu engine and Nachi hydraulic system, with approximately 7,500 operating hours—a respectable number for farm use. The boom, arm, and bucket cylinders are all in good condition, suggesting the issue lies not in the heavy-duty components but in a control circuit. Swapping between ISO and SAE joystick control standards shifts the slowdown from the arm to the boom, reinforcing that the fault lies in the pilot circuit running through the left joystick.
Possible Causes & Testing Sequence
The slow boom/arm movement likely stems from reduced pilot pressure due to one of several issues. A logical diagnostic roadmap includes:
- Pilot Pump Output — Measure the pilot pump’s pressure and adjust if necessary to ensure the system meets its design spec.
- Joystick Pilot Output — Check the pressure after the joystick; low output here could point to internal wear or obstruction.
- Pilot Line Strainer — A clogged strainer in the pilot line may restrict control pressure flow, even if main hydraulics are unaffected.
- Joystick Valve Condition — Internal parts—especially springs—can weaken over years; swapping the left joystick with the right (identical part number) can isolate whether the component itself is at fault.
- Complete Fluid & Filter Service — While less likely the immediate culprit, dirty fluid or clogged filters can contribute to pilot sluggishness and are wise to address during diagnostics.
Broader Hydraulic Joystick Troubleshooting Insights
Similar issues in other hydraulic machines offer reinforcing clues:
- Sticking or worn pilot valves or internal spools can cause sluggish joystick response or inconsistent boom behavior.
- Contamination or overfilled hydraulic fluid may cause aeration or degraded pressure control—draining to proper levels and thorough bleeding can restore crisp control.
- Electrical-soled issues are less likely when the issue shifts with ISO/SAE pattern swapping, but always worth verifying clean connections and continuity if joystick functions are erratic.
- Confirm stable pilot pump pressure under varying loads.
- Connect a gauge downstream of the joystick to verify pilot pressure flow.
- Clean or replace the strainer in the pilot circuit.
- Swap joysticks to determine if the component is mechanically defective.
- Replace fluids and filters, ensuring hydraulic cleanliness.
- Inspect hoses for pinching and connections for obstructions or kinks.
- Symptom: Left boom/arm slow with joystick; issue rotates with ISO/SAE pattern switching
- Suspected Fault: Reduced pilot pressure due to contamination, hydraulic restriction, or worn control components
- Diagnostics: Pilot pump test, post-joystick pressure check, strainer cleaning, swap joystick, fluid/filter service, hose check
Pilot systems handle the fine control signals in hydraulic excavators—lesser flow here means exactly what you’re seeing: precise functions go sluggish while the heavy-lift components may still seem to work okay under manual override. By methodically tracing pressure through the control circuit and isolating components, you’re well on the way to restoring full hydraulic responsiveness—without unnecessary major component replacements.
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1. Brand-new excavators.
2. Refurbished excavators for rental business, in bulk.
3. Excavators sold by original owners
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Whatsapp/Line: +66989793448 Wechat: waji8243