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Yarders on Facebook
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Introduction
A yarder is a cable-powered logging machine used to pull felled trees from steep or roadless terrain to a collection point. Modern and historic yarders range from small, truck-mounted skylines to massive stationary spar yarders used in high-lead logging. Online communities—especially Facebook groups—have become lively hubs where operators, restorers, and historians trade photos, technical tips, trouble-shooting advice, and parts-for-sale posts.
Yarder Basics
Yarders use winches, drums, and one or more lines (mainline, haulback, skyline) to move logs. Key operational parameters that define performance include line pull (measured in pounds or kilonewtons), drum capacity (feet/meters of cable), skyline/span length (hundreds to thousands of feet), and engine power (from small diesels up to several hundred horsepower on large units). Typical skyline reaches used historically were on the order of several hundred to a thousand feet.
Historical Development
Early yarders were steam-powered “donkey” or rail-mounted machines used from the late 19th century into the mid 20th century. As diesel power and mobile truck chassis became practical, yarders evolved into more mobile and higher-speed skyline systems. The steam era produced huge machines capable of pulling from multiple leads simultaneously; later diesel yarders focused on mobility, faster rigging, and safer controls.
Major Manufacturers and Industry Evolution
Several firms shaped yarder technology: Clyde/Lidgerwood types and Washington Ironworks in the U.S. Northwest were leaders in the early and mid-20th century; Madill, Christy, Skagit, and others later produced mobile and tower yarders. Many of the historic manufacturers either consolidated or left the market as cable logging declined in some regions; however, niche builders and remanufacturers still support the fleet. Company histories illustrate a shift from heavy, fixed plants toward mobile, lower-impact systems as road building and mechanization changed harvesting practices.
Modern Uses and Online Communities
Although mechanized felling and ground-based skidders expanded after WWII, yarding (skyline/high-lead) remains the method of choice for steep, environmentally sensitive, or inaccessible sites. Facebook groups dedicated to yarders and vintage logging machinery serve several roles:
  • Knowledge exchange — operators post rigging diagrams, hydraulic pump specs, and troubleshooting steps.
  • Parts and classifieds — rare drums, spar sections, and specialized sheaves change hands.
  • Preservation and restoration — enthusiasts document complete restorations of Madill, Skagit, or lidgerwood machines.
  • Job leads and operator networks — crews and contractors recruit experienced yarder operators.
Large public Facebook communities for logging equipment and yarder-specific groups together number in the tens of thousands of members, reflecting continuing interest in both working and historic machines.
Common Problems Operators Share
Facebook threads and posts often revolve around recurring technical problems; these are the most commonly discussed with practical fixes shared by members:
  • Cable wear and failure — symptoms: broken strands, kinking. Solutions: scheduled rope replacement based on hours and visual inspection; use of properly sized splices and thimbles.
  • Drum groove erosion — causes: mismatched rope diameter, improper spooling. Solutions: re-grooving drums or replacing drums; correct rope sizing.
  • Winch brake slippage — symptoms: loss of holding, drifting logs. Solutions: brake shoe replacement, hydraulic pressure checks, and control valve adjustment.
  • Hydraulic overheating or cavitation — often from undersized cooler, low fluid, or aeration. Solutions: add coolers, maintain fluid levels, inspect return line routing.
  • Spar and rigging fatigue — inspect for corrosion and metal fatigue; replace components showing cracking.
Practical metrics members recommend: inspect running lines every 100–200 hours in abrasive conditions; plan rope replacement every 1,000–1,500 operational hours depending on duty cycle and manufacturer's guidance. (These intervals are field-benchmarks—adjust for site severity.)
Maintenance and Best Practices
Experienced crews and restorers emphasize systems thinking: the yarder is winch, rigging, operator, and site combined. Best practices shared across groups include:
  • Daily pre-shift checks — visual rope inspection, drum spooling, hydraulic oil level and temperature, fastener torque.
  • Scheduled preventive maintenance — hydraulic filter and fluid change intervals, brake adjustment, bearing repacking.
  • Rigging standards — use rated hardware, maintain logbook records of rope life and repairs, torque specs for spar bolts.
  • Safety controls — deadman switches, remote cut-outs, and clear exclusion zones during machine operation.
  • Training — documented crew training on whistle signals, rigging knots, and emergency lowering procedures reduces incidents.
Technical upgrades discussed in groups include retrofitting modern hydraulic controls, remote telemetry for drum load monitoring, and using synthetic ropes where appropriate to reduce weight and improve handling—each with tradeoffs in cost and compatibility.
Terminology Glossary
  • Mainline — the primary line that hauls the log.
  • Haulback — line used to bring the carriage back out for the next yarding cycle.
  • Skyline — a stationary high-tension cable that supports the carriage; defines skyline yarding.
  • High-lead — yarding method using elevated lead and haulback but not a full skyline carriage.
  • Drum capacity — how much cable a winch drum stores; affects reach and cycle length.
  • Spar — the vertical or inclined mast that supports leads or skyline.
Small Story from the Community
A restoration thread that circulated in multiple yarder groups described a crew that recovered an abandoned Madill tower in a coastal canyon, trucked its components to a volunteer barn, and over two seasons rebuilt the diesel, rewound the drums, and refitted new sheaves. That project sparked local newspaper coverage and helped recruit young operators—an example of how online groups connect salvage, skills, and narrative to keep machines and institutional knowledge alive. (Anecdote reflects common community activity patterns.)
Practical Recommendations for Buyers and Operators
  • When buying a used yarder — ask for drum and rope service records, view hydraulic temperature logs if available, inspect spar for cracking, and confirm availability of spare parts; budget 10–20% of purchase price per year for maintenance on older machines.
  • When posting for help online — include machine make/model/year, engine hours, drum/rope specs, symptom detail (loads, RPMs, temperatures), and clear photos of wear points to get actionable advice.
  • For preservation projects — prioritize structural integrity (spars, frames) and critical running gear (winches, brakes) before cosmetic restoration. Plan for certified inspections if the machine will be used commercially.
Final Thoughts
Yarders occupy a niche at the intersection of forestry engineering, history, and hands-on craftsmanship. Facebook groups and similar online communities play a practical role—matching parts, trades-knowledge, and job opportunities—while also acting as living archives for an industry that transformed landscapes and local economies. Whether you run a skyline every week or restore a steam-era spar for a museum, the shared knowledge in these communities keeps the yarder tradition operational and culturally visible.
Data and Sources Note
Key historical and technical context above is drawn from industry summaries and research into yarding systems, manufacturers, and community activity. For historical timelines, manufacturer histories, and operational research, see standard references on yarder evolution and Forest Service yarding studies.
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