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Caterpillar 235 (Late‑’80s and Early Models): Reliability, Weak Points, and Real‑World Experience
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Overview of the Cat 235 Excavator
The Caterpillar 235 is a classic heavy crawler excavator produced beginning in the early 1980s. Powered by the 6‑cylinder 3306 diesel engine (~195 hp), it offers strong hydraulic flow (~190 gpm) and robust performance in large digging and trenching jobs. Operating weight ranges around 84,000‑87,000 lb, with reach and depth depending on boom/stick configuration (ranges from ~22‑27 ft digging depth, ~35‑39 ft reach at ground level) .
Common Structural Issues on Older 235 Models
Users frequently report:
  • Cracks in the undercarriage body just below the slewing bearing weld. This weld zone often splits under cyclic loads on older machines .
  • Excess play in the slewing bearing, often manifesting as up‑and‑down movement of the upper frame.
  • Cracked hydraulic steel tubes at control valve flanges, leading to persistent oil leaks .
  • These issues appear across early A and B series and persist into C and D models, though later machines may use thicker steel or improved welds .
Fuel System and Engine Supply Problems
The 235 usually features a mechanical 3306 engine. Owners report fuel starvation symptoms: machine starts, then dies after a few minutes. Often related to:
  • Failures or leakage in the hand‑primer pump or its check valves, allowing air ingress or losing fuel pressure.
  • Some units include an internal gear‑driven transfer (lift) pump inside or attached to the injector pump housing to maintain positive fuel pressure. Faults here can cause starvation .
  • Users have solved issues by installing inline electric lift pumps as a low-cost workaround when internal pumps fail .
Engine-Swap Considerations
Swapping a D333 engine into a Cat 235 is discouraged:
  • The original 3306 and its injection pump often depend on a sensing line tied into excavator hydraulics.
  • A D333 lacks the sensing plumbing, making operation unreliable unless the fuel system is fully reconfigured .
  • Most rebuild advice recommends sticking with the original 3306 or rebuilding it for compatibility and longevity .
Operator Insights & Real‑World Notes
  • One experiences difficulty in assessing wear due to hidden bushings or bore wear at pin joints (e.g., boom), especially if previous repairs masked defects.
  • Hour meters cannot always be trusted; machines change hands and maintenance records may be sparse, making visual inspection essential .
  • After cleaning operations areas—tracks, undercarriage—you might reveal hidden cracks or repairs that blunt judgement of condition .
  • One owner shared an anecdote finding grease and oil caked around the swing frame, hiding cracks until thorough cleaning later revealed them.
Terminology Guide
  • Slewing Bearing: The heavy-duty turntable bearing allowing rotation of the upper frame on the track assembly.
  • Control Valve Flange Tubes: Steel hydraulic lines welded to the valve block area—prone to cracking under vibration.
  • Hand Primer Pump: Manual pump on top of the fuel filter housing used to prime fuel lines.
  • Transfer (Lift) Pump: A small pump internal to the injector supply system or mounted to it to maintain pressure.
  • Fuel Starvation: Engine cutting out due to loss of consistent fuel delivery.
Inspection Checklist for a Used Cat 235
  • Examine the weld seam under the swing bearing for cracks or repairs.
  • Assess slew bearing axial play to detect wear in the turntable.
  • Inspect all steel hydraulic lines at control valve flanges for signs of fatigue cracks or weeping.
  • Test the hand primer pump and check valves for leaks and function.
  • Observe fuel delivery to the injector pump—lack of gravity feed may indicate lift-pump failure.
  • Check engine oil for water contamination and note coolant/oil mixing.
  • Examine pins, bushings, and bores on boom and stick for wear or misaligned repair plates.
Reliability Summary and Buyer Takeaways
  • The Cat 235 is a heavy-duty, high-capacity excavator—built for big jobs and still respected for raw capability and power when in good condition.
  • Common fragility is structural: weld cracks, swing-frame fatigue, undercarriage oil leaks. Fuel supply problems (hand primer or internal pump) are not rare.
  • Engines such as the 3306 remain serviceable, and many owners opt to rebuild rather than swap to avoid compatibility issues.
  • If carefully inspected and repaired where needed, a Cat 235 can remain reliable; but buyers should approach early models with caution and readiness to invest in structural and fuel system maintenance.
Whether you're hunting for performance or restoration, the 235 rewards careful selection and proactive overhaul—but neglect or hidden damage can make it an expensive, time‑consuming mistake.
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