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CAT 390F Hydraulic Pump Flow Drop and Propulsion Irregularities
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A CAT 390F excavator experiencing intermittent left track locking and stick slowdown likely suffers from electrical signal loss to Pump 1’s displacement control. The pump’s output drops from 214 cc/rev to 28 cc/rev without fault codes, suggesting sensor or wiring issues rather than hydraulic failure.
CAT 390F excavator overview and hydraulic architecture
The CAT 390F is a flagship model in Caterpillar’s large excavator lineup, designed for mass excavation, quarrying, and heavy demolition. It features a high-flow, load-sensing hydraulic system powered by dual variable-displacement piston pumps. Each pump is electronically controlled to adjust displacement based on operator input and system demand.
Pump 1 and Pump 2 are configured to share load across propulsion, boom, stick, and swing functions. Displacement is measured in cubic centimeters per revolution (cc/rev), with full output typically around 214 cc/rev. A sudden drop to 28 cc/rev indicates the pump is defaulting to minimum displacement—often triggered by signal loss or safety fallback.
Observed symptoms and diagnostic clues
The machine exhibits:
  • Left track locking and shuttering during travel
  • Stick function operates normally for one cycle, then slows
  • After a pause, the stick briefly returns to normal before slowing again
  • No fault codes present
  • Pilot pressure stable at 600 psi
  • Main relief valves set correctly at 5000 psi
  • On-screen data shows Pump 1 dropping from 214 to 28 cc/rev
These symptoms suggest intermittent control signal loss to Pump 1’s displacement solenoid, possibly due to:
  • Damaged wiring harness
  • Loose or corroded connectors
  • Faulty displacement sensor (often labeled Sensor 29)
  • Intermittent controller output
Electrical control and sensor integrity
Modern CAT excavators rely on electronic control modules (ECMs) to regulate pump displacement. The ECM receives input from joystick position, pressure sensors, and operational logic, then sends voltage to the displacement solenoid. If the signal is interrupted, the pump defaults to minimum flow to prevent overpressure or runaway motion.
Sensor 29, referenced in field discussions, likely monitors pump displacement or solenoid feedback. A failure here can cause the ECM to misinterpret pump status and reduce flow. Technicians should:
  • Inspect Sensor 29 for physical damage or contamination
  • Test voltage and continuity across the sensor circuit
  • Check connectors for pin corrosion or loose fit
  • Verify ECM output during operation using diagnostic software
Hydraulic fallback and safety logic
CAT’s hydraulic logic includes fallback modes to protect the system. If displacement control fails, the pump reduces flow to prevent overheating or overloading. This explains why the stick works briefly, then slows—each time the ECM resets, it attempts normal operation before detecting a fault and reducing flow.
The left track shuttering may be due to uneven flow between Pump 1 and Pump 2, especially if propulsion relies more heavily on Pump 1 during directional changes. This imbalance can cause jerky motion or partial lockup.
Recommendations for resolution
  • Begin with a full electrical inspection of Pump 1’s control circuit
  • Replace Sensor 29 if testing reveals erratic output
  • Clean and reseat all connectors between ECM and pump solenoid
  • Use CAT diagnostic software to monitor live data and fault history
  • If electrical checks pass, inspect pump solenoid for internal failure
Conclusion
The CAT 390F’s hydraulic pump flow drop is most likely caused by electrical signal loss rather than mechanical failure. With no fault codes and stable pilot pressure, the issue points to sensor or wiring degradation. Addressing these components can restore full pump displacement and eliminate propulsion irregularities.
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CAT 390F Hydraulic Pump Flow Drop and Propulsion Irregularities - by MikePhua - 10 hours ago

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