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Why Is the Tachometer Not Working on a John Deere 710B Backhoe
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The Role of the Alternator in Tachometer Function
On many older diesel-powered machines like the John Deere 710B backhoe, the tachometer doesn’t rely on a direct mechanical drive or a dedicated sensor. Instead, it reads the alternating current (AC) signal generated by the alternator. While the alternator’s primary job is to charge the battery and power electrical systems, it also produces a small AC ripple that can be used to estimate engine RPM.
This AC signal is typically tapped from a dedicated terminal on the alternator and sent directly to the tachometer. When the key is turned on, the tach may momentarily jump as it receives power, but if the alternator isn’t producing the expected AC signal, the tach will remain dead even if the engine is running.
Terminology:
  • AC Ripple: A small alternating voltage superimposed on the DC output of an alternator, used by some tachometers to measure RPM.
  • Tachometer: An instrument that displays engine speed, usually in revolutions per minute (RPM).
Common Symptoms and Diagnostic Clues
In the case of a non-functioning tachometer, several clues can help narrow down the fault:
  • The tach needle jumps when the ignition is turned on, indicating it receives power.
  • The alternator charges correctly at idle (typically around 14 volts DC), confirming the charging circuit is functional.
  • All visible wiring and connections appear intact and corrosion-free.
Despite these signs, the tach remains inactive during operation. This points to a missing or faulty AC signal from the alternator.
Diagnostic steps:
  • Use a multimeter set to AC voltage to probe the tach signal terminal on the alternator.
  • Check for continuity between the alternator and the tachometer input.
  • Inspect for any inline diodes or resistors that may be blocking the signal.
  • Confirm that the tachometer is compatible with the alternator’s pulse frequency.
Alternator Variants and Signal Isolation
Some alternators used on the 710B and similar machines were built with internal isolation diodes. These diodes prevent backfeed and protect sensitive electronics, but they can also interfere with the AC signal needed for tachometer operation. If the alternator was replaced with a unit lacking the correct signal tap—or if the diode configuration differs—the tach may stop working even though charging remains unaffected.
Terminology:
  • Isolation Diode: A diode used to prevent electrical current from flowing backward into a circuit, often found in alternators.
  • Signal Tap: A terminal or wire used to extract a specific signal from a component, such as RPM data from an alternator.
In one documented case, a technician replaced the alternator with a newer model that lacked the AC signal terminal. The tachometer stopped working immediately, and only after sourcing a compatible alternator with the correct tap did the issue resolve.
Tachometer Compatibility and Replacement Considerations
If the alternator is confirmed to be producing the correct AC signal, and the wiring is intact, the tachometer itself may be faulty. Even new aftermarket units can fail if they’re not matched to the alternator’s pulse frequency or voltage range.
Recommendations:
  • Verify the tachometer’s input specifications (voltage range, pulse frequency).
  • Match the tach to the alternator’s number of poles and RPM-to-frequency ratio.
  • Avoid generic replacements unless they’re explicitly rated for alternator signal input.
  • Consider using a digital tach with programmable input settings for greater flexibility.
Terminology:
  • Pulse Frequency: The number of electrical pulses per second generated by the alternator, proportional to engine speed.
  • Programmable Tachometer: A digital unit that can be calibrated to match different signal types and frequencies.
A contractor in Alberta installed a universal tachometer on his 710B, only to find it wildly inaccurate. After switching to a programmable unit and calibrating it to the alternator’s output, the readings became consistent and reliable.
Electrical System Aging and Preventive Measures
Older machines often suffer from degraded wiring, oxidized terminals, and brittle insulation. Even if the tach circuit appears intact, hidden resistance or intermittent shorts can disrupt signal transmission.
Preventive steps:
  • Replace aging wires with marine-grade tinned copper conductors.
  • Use dielectric grease on all terminals to prevent corrosion.
  • Install inline fuses or surge protectors to shield sensitive electronics.
  • Periodically test voltage and signal continuity during routine maintenance.
Terminology:
  • Dielectric Grease: A non-conductive lubricant that protects electrical connections from moisture and corrosion.
  • Continuity Test: A diagnostic procedure to check if electricity can flow through a wire or circuit.
In one restoration project, a technician discovered that a single corroded terminal behind the dashboard was causing intermittent tach failures. Cleaning and resealing the connection restored full function.
Conclusion
When a tachometer fails on a machine like the John Deere 710B, the issue often lies in the alternator’s AC signal output or the compatibility between components. While the alternator may charge the battery correctly, it may not produce the signal needed for RPM measurement. By checking for AC voltage, verifying wiring integrity, and ensuring tachometer compatibility, operators can restore accurate engine speed readings. In older equipment, electrical quirks are common—but with methodical diagnostics and a bit of patience, even the most stubborn tach can be brought back to life.
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Why Is the Tachometer Not Working on a John Deere 710B Backhoe - by MikePhua - 5 hours ago

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