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A 193-Hour Report on the LiuGong CLG836 |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 04:02 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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The LiuGong CLG836 is one of LiuGong's flagship models, highly trusted by numerous users. In this report, we present the experience of one such user, "Aguang," who purchased the LiuGong CLG836 for ¥204,000 in 2012. After nearly 200 hours of usage, the machine primarily handles earthmoving tasks at a brick factory, with operations at the steep mountain site where raw materials like clay and gravel are excavated.
Working Environment and Usage
The LiuGong CLG836 typically works in a high-load environment. It is used for approximately 1-2 hours a day to load dirt, fulfilling the brick factory's daily production requirements. In nearly a year of operation, the machine has accumulated only 193 hours, a testament to its durability and reliability in a high-intensity work environment. Despite the low operational hours, its performance remains outstanding thanks to regular maintenance.
Equipment Configuration and User Feedback - Bucket and Tooth Design: The machine is equipped with a 1.7m³ bucket and features LiuGong’s unique rectangular pin design for bucket teeth. While this design allows for easier replacement, users have noted that it tends to loosen over time, reducing its practical durability.
- Bucket Wear Resistance Improvement: To enhance the bucket's wear resistance, Aguang welded a layer of wear-resistant rod onto the bucket edge. This modification has significantly increased its durability.
- Bucket and Boom: The bucket’s edge plates are relatively thin, requiring reinforcement by the user. The boom design is robust, with the extended version offering an unloading height of 3211mm, 50mm higher than the standard model. This makes it ideal for high-clearance operations.
Hydraulic System and Steering- Steering System: The LiuGong CLG836 is equipped with a dual-cylinder fully hydraulic steering system, which is stable, though the steering wheel is somewhat heavy. There is slight oil leakage from the two hydraulic cylinders. The hydraulic system is well-organized, with hoses in the articulated parts that are not prone to friction wear. The widened articulation system makes the machine well-suited for heavy-duty mining and construction, providing excellent overload resistance. Users have suggested that LiuGong could improve the material used in the articulation plates for better durability.
- Grease Injection: The steering cylinders and articulation system are designed to make grease injection more convenient, with centralized grease fittings for easy maintenance.
Transmission System and Drive Axle- Transmission System: The LiuGong CLG836 uses the BS305 planetary transmission system, which provides two forward gears and one reverse gear. It also includes a low brake air pressure protection feature, ensuring the transmission automatically shifts to neutral when air pressure drops below 0.4MPa, improving safety during emergency stops.
- Drive Axle: The drive axle is custom-designed by LiuGong, ensuring high reliability and strength for heavy-duty applications.
Braking System and User Experience- Braking System: The machine uses a hydraulic brake system with four-wheel disc brakes. The brake system uses LiuGong’s custom ZL50C2.2 wheel-edge brake calipers, which are located inside the tire steel rims to prevent mud and debris from damaging the brake components, improving both braking performance and lifespan. However, the brake system requires tire removal for maintenance.
- Cab and Operation: The cab provides a good working environment, with a clear view and comfortable seating, including a suspension seat for long working hours. However, users report that the handrails inside the cab are too high and positioned awkwardly, creating a potential safety hazard when entering the cab. The steering wheel is heavy, and there is a concern about the unclear gear positions, which could lead to accidental gear shifting and potential transmission damage.
Engine and Fuel Consumption- Engine: The LiuGong CLG836 is powered by the Weichai Deutz TD226B-6 turbocharged diesel engine, meeting EURO I emissions standards. The engine is easy to start in cold weather and provides strong power. However, users have noted slight oil leakage from the fuel pump, though this hasn’t affected the engine’s performance. After the first service, users found oil leakage from the engine’s oil return pipe due to overfilling during the oil change, but this was corrected.
- Fuel Consumption: The machine’s fuel consumption is relatively high, averaging 10 liters per hour, which is a point of concern. The fuel tank has a capacity of 150L but lacks a clear viewing window, making it difficult for users to check the fuel level.
Cooling and Battery Systems- Cooling System: The cooling system is highly effective, with the radiator water temperature and torque converter oil temperature never exceeding 80°C, ensuring reliable performance during long hours of operation.
- Battery System: The battery box is located to the left of the counterweight and is secured with four screws. Users have applied grease to prevent rust, and it can be easily opened for maintenance. The machine is equipped with two 12V90AH maintenance-free dry batteries, which are known for their excellent quality.
Maintenance Practices
Users conduct regular maintenance on the LiuGong CLG836, with the first engine service performed at just over 60 hours. Key maintenance practices include:- Greasing the parts of the bucket that are prone to sand and dirt entry.
- Draining water from the air tanks every 50 hours.
- Regularly lubricating the bucket pins and applying grease to the battery terminals to prevent corrosion.
- Ensuring that the radiator, engine oil, and hydraulic lines are checked periodically.
Summary
Advantages:- Attractive design, clear visibility, and a comfortable driving environment.
- Reliable and durable brake system.
- Engine powered by the Weichai Deutz TD226B-6 turbocharged diesel engine, and the transmission and drive axle are designed for high strength and reliability.
Disadvantages:- The bucket teeth design could be improved as they tend to loosen.
- The gap between the bucket pin and the boom is too wide, requiring additional protection.
- The bucket edge plates and articulation plates need reinforcement.
- The handrails inside the cab are positioned too high, posing a safety risk.
- The gear shift system could be clearer to avoid accidental gear shifting.
Overall, the LiuGong CLG836 performs well in high-demand working conditions, especially when properly maintained. Despite some areas that could benefit from design improvements, it remains a reliable choice for heavy-duty tasks in various industries.
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Case 440HD Skid Steer Loader: Time as the Ultimate Test of Quality |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:56 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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In 2004, the Lianjian Machinery Equipment Rental Company in Guangzhou purchased a second-hand Case 440HD skid steer loader, an opportunity that arose as part of the company's business expansion. At the time, Case’s reputation for military-grade quality equipment had already reached the company’s ears, and after a thorough inspection, they decided to trust the reliability of this well-regarded brand.
Proven Reliability: 8 Years and No Failures
This Case 440HD skid steer loader has now been in operation for over 8 years, accumulating 78,000 hours of usage. Despite being a second-hand machine with 20,000 operating hours on it, the loader has continued to perform flawlessly. Before purchasing, we had senior engineers thoroughly inspect the equipment to ensure its quality, and it passed with flying colors.
Even after years of high-intensity work, the Case 440HD loader has never needed any major repairs or part replacements, other than routine wear and tear and maintenance. The machine has proven that Case equipment maintains its durability and performance, even when purchased second-hand. Time has truly validated the quality of this machine, and it continues to perform like new.
Efficient Operation: The Perfect Partner in Road Work
Whenever the road milling machines roar to life on the highway, our Case 440HD skid steer loader quietly follows behind, diligently clearing the debris left behind. Like two close partners, it works seamlessly with the milling machine, ensuring that the road remains clean and clear. The loader’s powerful engine and precise movements avoid the need for additional equipment like street sweepers or water trucks, saving costs for the project.
The stability and reliability of the Case 440HD skid steer loader have been invaluable to our operations. It has worked tirelessly for hours, even through long shifts, without breaking down. Whether it's engine failures or issues with the sweeping drive motor, the loader has proven to be consistent, always performing its job with precision.
Versatile Attachments: A Multi-tasking Workhorse
In addition to its core duties, the Case 440HD skid steer loader is equipped with several versatile attachments, including a slant broom, bucket, and breaker, all of which can be quickly swapped out. Its maneuverability and high work efficiency make it adaptable to a wide range of tasks such as road sweeping, breaking, washing, snow clearing in the winter, and material handling.
The combination of quick-moving capabilities and adaptable attachments makes the Case 440HD loader a go-to choice for various construction operations. Whether for routine cleaning, material transport, or heavy-duty tasks, the loader handles it all with ease.
Market Leadership: Case Skid Steer Loader and Road Milling Machines as a Standard Pair
In our business, the Case 440HD skid steer loader paired with a road milling machine has become the preferred method in the market. To meet growing demand, we offer bundled rental packages of the Case 440HD with the road milling machines. This combination has proven to be a reliable income stream for the company, with the efficiency in construction operations also contributing to smoother highway traffic, benefiting the community.
Conclusion: Time and Quality Assurance with Case
Over the past eight years, the Case 440HD skid steer loader has not only helped us achieve operational efficiency but has also delivered significant economic benefits to our business. Its durable performance, reliability, and versatility make it an indispensable asset. Whether new or second-hand, Case equipment has consistently proven to be a sound investment that guarantees quality and long-term value.
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Relying on Caterpillar: Xuan Yousheng’s Unbreakable Bond with Quality Machinery |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:54 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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In the bustling construction site of Qinzhou, Guangxi, a Caterpillar (Cat) 336D excavator fills a 20-cubic meter truck roughly every three minutes. Standing nearby with a satisfied look on his face is Xuan Yousheng, a well-known private enterprise owner in the engineering machinery industry. He is one of the most trusted names in the industry and a proud recipient of the Caterpillar Loyalty Award. This prestigious award recognizes customers who boost efficiency and accelerate success, showcasing the strong bond of mutual support, trust, and collaboration between Caterpillar, its dealer Xinchang Machinery Engineering Co. Ltd., and its customers.
A Turning Point: Discovering the Power of Caterpillar
Xuan’s journey with Caterpillar machines began only five years ago, when they were still a rare sight in Qinzhou. Back then, many people had to rent machinery from Nanning, the provincial capital. Xuan was no exception. However, in 2006, as Caterpillar’s dealer network expanded to Qinzhou through Xinchang, Xuan finally realized that he could conveniently purchase Cat excavators in his hometown. Excited by this opportunity, he bought his first Cat 320C excavator that very year. Little did he know, this machine would become the foundation of an unbreakable relationship with Caterpillar and Xinchang.
Saving a Million-Yuan Investment: The Night of the Flood
Every year between May and August, Guangxi faces its rainy season. On one such rainy evening, Xuan’s Cat 320C was working in the mountains. Due to the low-lying terrain, the river water began rising, and the excavator could not move to higher ground. Seeing his investment of over one million yuan in danger of being submerged, Xuan frantically called Xinchang for help.
Though it was already after hours, Xinchang responded immediately. Two technicians were dispatched and arrived at Xuan’s site in Qinzhou by 8 p.m. The heavy rain did not deter them from their mission. The technicians quickly started “rescuing” the machine, applying oil and protecting the engine to prevent water damage. By 2 a.m., they used another Cat excavator to pull Xuan’s Cat 320C out of the sand, saving his investment from the floodwaters.
The technicians were soaked to the bone and shivering from the cold, but Xuan was deeply moved by their dedication. Over time, he became friends with them, and their bond extended beyond work. This act of support from Xinchang was not an isolated case. The company’s repair teams often travel under harsh conditions to ensure their customers’ equipment keeps running smoothly, no matter the time or terrain.
Mutual Trust and Support Through Tough Times
After surviving the rainy season, Xuan faced yet another challenge—the global financial crisis of 2008. The sudden drop in commodity prices severely affected his business, as mineral prices halved. With monthly payments of over 60,000 yuan for the Cat excavators he had purchased on finance, combined with the wages of his workers, Xuan found himself in a cash flow crunch.
In this difficult situation, Xuan reached out to Xinchang and Caterpillar, requesting that they avoid stopping the machines during the busy construction period, despite his temporary inability to make payments on time. Caterpillar and Xinchang, known for their customer-centric services, understood his predicament and offered him flexible repayment options. While Xuan ultimately managed to make the payments on time, the humane support from Caterpillar and Xinchang gave him peace of mind during the crisis.
Through this challenging time, Xuan’s trust in Caterpillar and Xinchang only grew stronger. The excellent performance of Cat excavators and the efficient after-sales service from Xinchang played a significant role in sustaining his business during tough economic conditions.
Reaping Rewards: Timely Payments and Increased Efficiency
Having weathered the rainy season and the financial crisis, Xuan saw the rainbow after the storm. In the construction industry, it is not uncommon for contractors to face delays in receiving payment after completing projects. However, Xuan’s experience was different—his payments were almost always prompt.
The secret to this “luck” lay in the efficiency of his Cat excavators. Xuan proudly shared, “Because Cat excavators work quickly and efficiently, clients are always satisfied with the progress. They don’t want me to leave the job site, which naturally ensures timely payments.”
Though Cat excavators are priced higher than other brands, their superior quality, durability, and reliability mean fewer breakdowns and less downtime for repairs. As Xuan wisely pointed out, "The cost difference between Cat and other machines is negligible when you consider the costs incurred during repairs and delays." He further added, “Projects like the Three Gorges Dam demand machines that can work continuously without delays, and Cat machines are always the first choice because they can handle the toughest tasks.”
Growing Business: Expanding with Caterpillar
Relying on Caterpillar machinery, Xuan’s business continued to thrive. He became meticulous about fuel costs and efficiency, calculating, “If I spend 7,000 yuan on fuel, I can earn 13,000 yuan in work. If you spend 5,000 yuan on fuel, you only earn 10,000 yuan. Which is the better deal?”
Since his first purchase, Xuan has expanded his fleet by adding five more Cat excavators. He often encourages his friends and colleagues to buy Cat machines, citing their exceptional performance and the superior service from Xinchang.
The thriving demand for earthmoving services in Qinzhou has also contributed to Xuan’s success. From 2008 to the present, Qinzhou has seen a surge in large-scale infrastructure projects, including the construction of bonded port areas, industrial parks, and oil refineries. The increasing demand for earthmoving services has led many in the region to follow Xuan’s example and invest in Caterpillar machinery.
In fact, the sales of Caterpillar machines in Qinzhou doubled from 2008 to 2009, with over 60% of the excavators used in large projects, such as the Qinzhou Port Reclamation and PetroChina’s Refinery, being Caterpillar machines.
Conclusion: A Strong Partnership Built on Trust
Xuan Yousheng’s journey with Caterpillar has been one of mutual trust, shared growth, and continued success. From his first Cat 320C excavator to his expanding fleet of Cat machines, Xuan has witnessed firsthand the reliability and efficiency of Caterpillar equipment. With exceptional customer support from Xinchang, he has been able to overcome financial crises, expand his business, and ensure timely project completion.
As the construction market in Qinzhou continues to grow, Xuan remains a loyal advocate for Caterpillar, confident in the machines' ability to deliver the power, performance, and support necessary for long-term success.
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A Caterpillar Enthusiast's Success Story: The Journey of Ruan Zhuoji |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:52 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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Ruan Zhuoji, a successful owner of two quarries in Wuming County, Nanning, Guangxi, is a devoted fan of Caterpillar (Cat) machinery. He was awarded the Caterpillar Best Maintenance Award, a recognition aimed at encouraging customers to maintain their equipment diligently, thus extending the life cycle and increasing its value. This award also highlights the role of Caterpillar and its partner Xinchang Machinery Engineering Co. Ltd. in supporting clients' success.
Ruan, who loves traveling, machines, and cars, especially enjoys working with his Caterpillar machines. Every day when he arrives at work, he makes it a point to check his machines' maintenance status. Since transitioning into the construction machinery industry in 2000, Ruan has become a loyal fan of Caterpillar, owning nine pieces of Cat equipment, including Cat 320D and Cat 336D.
A Smart Business Strategy Built Around Caterpillar Machines
Ruan Zhuoji appreciates the high efficiency and stability of Caterpillar machinery, but he also recognizes that the machines come with a higher price tag. How does he balance the performance and price? Here's his perspective:
"Some people may think that cheaper machines are easier to deal with when they break down, but I don't think that way. Even if a machine is cheaper, if it breaks down after just an hour of work, it will cause a halt to operations for the entire night. With my Cat machines, I can complete over a thousand cubic meters in one night of work. When you compare the two, it’s clear which option saves more time and effort."
In the quarry business, it’s common to work for 20 days a month, with 10 days of earnings going toward paying workers and the other 10 days being the boss's profit. Ruan explains: "If your machine is constantly breaking down, you can only work for about ten days each month. With that, how can you make a profit and sustain the business? My machines, however, work continuously, allowing me to earn profit regularly."
This is the reason why Ruan often recommends Caterpillar to his peers. Thanks to Caterpillar machines, Ruan's business has flourished year by year, and now he is a well-known and respected figure among local quarry owners, who frequently come to him for advice. Ruan proudly says, “Every month, other business owners visit my quarry to ask if the Cat machines are as good as I say. If they can learn from my success, they can earn profits; if not, they might be at risk of going out of business.”
From Novice to Expert: A Journey of Knowledge and Growth
Ruan's success is tied closely to his deep understanding of Caterpillar machines. When he first entered the construction machinery industry in 2000, he knew very little about the equipment. He recalled, “At the beginning, I had no experience, so I asked others which brand of excavators were good. A friend suggested, ‘If you have the budget, buy Caterpillar.’”
Following his friend's advice, Ruan purchased a second-hand Caterpillar excavator. While it was more expensive than other machines by over 100,000 yuan, it worked exceptionally well. After experiencing the benefits, Ruan upgraded to a new model. As his business expanded, he continually increased his fleet of Caterpillar machines, and eventually owned nine pieces of Cat equipment.
On his quarry site, Ruan uses Cat 320D and Cat 336D for daily operations, handling around 10,000 cubic meters of work each day. "The quarry environment is harsh, but Caterpillar machines perform excellently—well-designed, efficient, stable, and rarely prone to issues. Especially when working with hard materials, Cat machines really shine," he explains.
Efficiency and Cost Control: The Advantage of [b]Caterpillar Equipment[/b]
Ruan is now shifting his focus to larger Caterpillar machines for even greater efficiency. He mentions, "For example, Cat 336D performs wonderfully. With more powerful machines, I need fewer workers, which reduces labor costs and makes it easier to sleep at night without worrying about safety accidents. More workers mean higher wages and greater risks for the business." He humorously asked us to help calculate the financial benefits of using Cat machines.
Caterpillar: A Commitment to Quality Maintenance
Ruan’s success also stems from his dedication to the maintenance of his machines. He believes in keeping his Caterpillar equipment in pristine condition. After every shift, his machines are thoroughly cleaned, including the operator's cabin, boom, and even the tracks. He has even implemented strict rules for his workers, such as not allowing them to wear shoes inside the cabin.
"The dirt on shoes can make the cabin dirty and affect the air conditioning system," he says. "If the environment is not clean, the workers will not take care of the machine. I also want to make sure that my machines keep working efficiently to generate more profits."
Ruan has cultivated a work culture where every machine is cherished, and his employees understand the importance of maintaining the equipment. His method of operation has created a work environment where the equipment is treated with the utmost care, ensuring its longevity and continuous performance.
A Deeper Bond with [b]Caterpillar: First-Hand Experience at the Factory[/b]
Ruan's deep trust in Caterpillar was further reinforced when he visited the Caterpillar factory in Las Vegas, USA. “The factory was incredibly advanced, with top-notch technology and computers controlling the entire production line. After that visit, I felt 100% confident in Caterpillar,” Ruan recalls.
He believes that Caterpillar machines may be more expensive, but they offer incredible value for money. "Every detail is meticulously crafted, and with the high tariffs, each machine is worth every penny. The Caterpillar team and their dealer in Guangxi, Xinchang Machinery, provide high-standard, efficient, and attentive after-sales service that really sets them apart."
Ruan recounts a story of his experience with Caterpillar's after-sales service: “One time, the machine broke down, and within two hours, a technician arrived under the scorching sun to repair it. The speed and expertise of the service team are unmatched.”
Conclusion: The Enduring Success of Ruan Zhuoji
Ruan Zhuoji’s business success is a direct result of his commitment to using Caterpillar equipment and his dedication to maintaining it in optimal condition. Starting with a second-hand Caterpillar excavator, he gradually built up his fleet, and today he owns nine Cat machines that help him complete thousands of cubic meters of work every day.
His strategic approach to equipment management, combined with his emphasis on training skilled operators and maintaining a clean working environment, has helped him build a reputation for reliability and efficiency. As Ruan looks to expand his business further, he remains committed to purchasing more Caterpillar equipment, confident that Cat machines will continue to play a key role in his future success.
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From Struggles to Success: How a Passion for Caterpillar Built a Thriving Business |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:50 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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On a busy construction site, with six Caterpillar 336D excavators working together, Lü Huliang proudly displays the backbone of his business. As the winner of Caterpillar's Best Entrepreneur Award, Lü believes that the reliability of Caterpillar machines ensures steady progress on site, client satisfaction, and most importantly, profitability and reputation.
Lü’s journey to success started with struggles, doubts, and hard work—common experiences for anyone who has ventured into the world of construction machinery. However, his story serves as an inspiration to those navigating the rough waters of entrepreneurship.
The Early Struggles: A Leap of Faith
In 2003, just after graduating, Lü Huliang was uncertain about his future. An opportunity arose when his cousin suggested that entering the excavator business could be a stable and less risky venture, although it required significant investment. After extensive consultations and market research, Lü discussed the idea with his father, who, despite their modest means, supported him. His father mortgaged their only home, and with a bit of help from relatives and friends, Lü was able to gather about 200,000 RMB to invest in an excavator.
At that time, Lü and his cousin were new to the industry and had little understanding of machinery, so they carefully selected their first excavator, a Caterpillar 320C, after receiving advice from an experienced friend. The quality, reliability, and strong after-sales service of Caterpillar made it an easy choice.
The purchase wasn’t without its challenges. After paying the down payment, Lü and his cousin were left with only 300 RMB—barely enough for fuel, let alone transport costs. The dealership, Xinchang, sympathized with their situation and helped cover the transport fee, ensuring the machine reached the construction site.
With no prior business experience, the young entrepreneurs worked tirelessly to find jobs. They eagerly accepted every project, no matter how small. Despite the struggles, their hard work paid off. Within a month, they earned more than 30,000 RMB, which gave them the confidence to push forward.
Building Trust and Reputation: The Power of Consistency
After overcoming the initial hurdles, Lü and his cousin gained a solid reputation in the market. They no longer had to chase after every project; instead, clients began to approach them. Lü realized that in the construction industry, the key to success lies in building trust with clients.
He attributes much of their success to the quality of Caterpillar machines. The brand’s durability meant that they could take on any project, large or small, without worrying about delays or breakdowns. Lü’s experience with Caterpillar proved invaluable in ensuring that his business delivered projects on time and with high quality, leading to positive word-of-mouth and repeat business.
As Lü gained more experience in the industry, he became highly knowledgeable about different excavator brands and their strengths and weaknesses. He could easily identify issues with hydraulic systems, engine power, and after-sales service. But, in his view, Caterpillar stood out for its integrated production system, where everything—from engines to hydraulics and chassis—is made in-house, ensuring consistency and reliability.
"Regardless of how harsh the conditions, Caterpillar machines excel. The rougher the job, the better Cat performs,” Lü remarked. For him, the choice was simple: Caterpillar was the brand he could trust.
A Personal Story: Why Caterpillar Won His Heart
Lü’s loyalty to Caterpillar grew even stronger after a particularly memorable job. In 2009, during an excavation project for a basement under a building, Caterpillar 330C worked alongside two other brands of excavators. The other machines struggled with the hard weathered rock, but the 330C performed effortlessly, making Lü a true believer in the brand.
This experience led him to purchase a Cat 336D, and from that point forward, Lü bought new Caterpillar machines almost every year. Today, he owns six Caterpillar 336D excavators, and his relatives own over 20 machines, the majority of which are also Cat.
Lü’s endorsement of Caterpillar is reflected in his family and friends' purchasing habits, many of whom credit Lü for introducing them to the brand. According to him, every single one of his relatives who bought Caterpillar machines has been extremely satisfied with their performance.
Future Plans and Unwavering Confidence
Today, Lü is a well-respected figure in the construction machinery industry. His business is thriving, and he plans to continue investing in Caterpillar machines. He is already eyeing the Cat 345D for his next purchase and hopes to acquire two more units when the opportunity arises.
Lü’s success story is a testament to the value of perseverance, trust, and quality—qualities that Caterpillar embodies. As he reflects on his journey, Lü is grateful for the role Caterpillar played in his success and remains a steadfast believer in the brand.
Key Takeaways: - Perseverance Pays Off: Lü's hard work and determination, coupled with the reliability of Caterpillar, helped him overcome early challenges and build a successful business.
- Trust in Quality: Lü’s experience shows that choosing high-quality equipment is essential for long-term success, especially in the demanding construction industry.
- Building Reputation: Delivering projects on time and with high quality leads to client trust and repeat business—a key lesson for anyone in the industry.
- Loyalty to a Trusted Brand: Lü’s story demonstrates how a strong partnership with a reliable brand, like Caterpillar, can make all the difference in the success of a business.
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Caterpillar 320D GC Excavator Review: Built for Earthworks |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:48 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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In 2010, Caterpillar launched the 320D GC excavator, specially designed for earthworks and tailored to the needs of Chinese users. Known as the "Earthworks King," this model offers a balanced mix of performance and fuel efficiency, making it an excellent choice for operators focused on large-scale excavation projects. Compared to the standard 320D, the 320D GC is lighter, more fuel-efficient, and cost-effective, specifically designed to serve users working in earthmoving and moderate-duty construction projects.
Key Features of the Caterpillar 320D GC: - Engine: Equipped with the Caterpillar C6.4 engine, delivering 92.3 kW of power, which is 10 kW less than the 320D. Despite the lower power rating, the engine remains highly reliable, with the same internal structure as the 320D, ensuring smooth performance and fuel efficiency.
- Design: The 320D GC is 400 kg lighter than the 320D. The chassis and boom use slightly thinner steel, but it's still robust enough to handle most earthmoving tasks, including non-rock operations.
- Fuel Efficiency: The 320D GC offers improved fuel efficiency over the 320D, with fuel consumption around 16-17 liters per hour when operating at 8-speed throttle, making it suitable for extended use on job sites.
User Experience:
According to SK6, a veteran operator and 320D GC user, the excavator's performance has been impressive, with over 250 hours of use. Below are the key insights from his experience:- Power & Fuel Efficiency: The 320D GC's performance is highly adequate for earthworks, providing sufficient power for digging and lifting. Despite the 10 kW power reduction, the hydraulic system pressure remains unchanged, offering consistent and reliable performance.
- Cold Start: When cold-starting the machine, minor black smoke is produced. However, this quickly clears up after 2-3 minutes of operation, indicating the engine is operating normally.
- Smooth Operation: The rotation and other key parts of the machine operate smoothly, and the cabin's tight seal ensures better air pressure inside, contributing to a quieter and more comfortable working environment.
Pros and Cons of the Caterpillar 320D GC:
Pros:- Fuel Efficiency: Compared to the 320D, the 320D GC is more fuel-efficient, consuming 16-17 liters of fuel per hour, which is ideal for prolonged earthworks projects.
- Adequate Power: Despite being designed for earthworks, the machine delivers ample power to handle typical tasks effectively.
- Moderate Speed: The machine operates at an optimal speed for most day-to-day tasks, offering a balance between power and performance.
Cons:- Thin Bucket: The standard bucket is relatively thin and may require reinforcement for tougher conditions, especially when dealing with denser materials.
- Seat Comfort: The seat isn't a suspension type, which may affect comfort during long hours of operation.
- Throttle Control: When operating at low speeds (7-speed throttle or less), the machine may struggle with tougher earth. The throttle response is significant—at 8-speed, the machine feels noticeably more powerful.
Final Thoughts
From SK6's review, it’s clear that the 320D GC is an excellent machine for earthworks with its fuel efficiency, solid power, and reliable performance. While it has a few minor shortcomings, such as the thin bucket and seat comfort, these can be addressed with minor adjustments. Overall, the 320D GC proves to be a great choice for operators focused on earthmoving tasks. If you have further insights or experiences with this model, feel free to share, as it can help others in the construction industry make informed decisions.
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User Review of Yuchai 230LC-8 Excavator After 500 Hours |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:42 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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The rise of domestic construction machinery has long been a hope for many in China. Despite concerns over the potential issues with local machines, many users still hesitate to purchase them. However, in recent times, events like the Diaoyu Island dispute have sparked a surge in national pride, especially in industries like construction equipment. As a result, many international brands like Komatsu, Hitachi, and Sumitomo, who had initially planned to attend the 2012 Bauma Exhibition, chose to withdraw, fueling a sense of patriotism among the industry. This heightened sense of national pride encourages people to support domestic brands, making it an ideal time for Chinese machinery to take the spotlight.
One such domestic machine is the Yuchai 230LC-8, a model that is gaining traction among Chinese users. In this article, we explore the 500-hour usage report of this excavator by a user from Xinjiang, and delve into his thoughts on Yuchai and the rise of domestic brands.
Choosing a Domestic Excavator: Why the Yuchai 230LC-8?
The user, known as "Lei Pang Zi 007", is based in Xinjiang and works extensively with construction machinery. With the rising costs of labor, the need for reliable construction equipment has become more apparent. After much deliberation, Lei Pang Zi 007 decided to purchase an excavator to meet the growing demand for earth-moving work.
The Decision Process:
- Considering Foreign Brands:
Initially, Lei Pang Zi 007 considered purchasing a foreign-brand machine like the Caterpillar 320D. However, despite the high residual value of foreign machines, the higher fuel consumption and substantial loan payments made him lean toward more cost-effective options. The long payback period also played a role in the decision.
- Evaluating Japanese and Korean Machines:
The next option was to go for a Japanese or Korean machine. Although brands like Doosan and Hyundai were attractive due to their competitive pricing, Lei Pang Zi 007 harbored some concerns about the quality and longevity of these machines, which made him reconsider.
- Exploring Used Machines:
The idea of purchasing a second-hand machine was also explored. However, most used Japanese machines in Xinjiang had already clocked over 10,000 hours, with some lacking clear usage records. The price of these used machines, combined with the potential risk of hidden problems, led him to dismiss this option.
- Opting for Domestic Machines:
After evaluating various options, Lei Pang Zi 007 decided to purchase a Yuchai 230LC-8. His reasons for choosing a domestic excavator were based on several factors:- Cost-Effectiveness: Yuchai machines are generally more affordable compared to foreign brands, offering a quicker return on investment.
- After-Sales Service: Yuchai offers better accessibility for parts and servicing, which is crucial for long-term maintenance.
- Domestic Engine: The Yuchai 230LC-8 is equipped with a Yuchai engine, which has been widely used in Chinese vehicles. This compatibility makes it easier for him to maintain and repair the machine in the future.
Yuchai 230LC-8 Excavator After 500 Hours of Use
After using the Yuchai 230LC-8 for over 500 hours, Lei Pang Zi 007 shared his experiences with the machine, providing a detailed account of its performance and reliability.
Performance:- Engine and Fuel Efficiency: The Yuchai 230LC-8 is equipped with a Yuchai engine, offering 115 kW of power. The fuel consumption is relatively low, around 13 liters per hour at 4th gear, and between 16-18 liters per hour at 6th gear. This makes it quite efficient for various tasks, including earth-moving work. The machine can load a 24-ton truck in 5-6 minutes.
- Rotation Speed: One of the key strengths of the Yuchai 230LC-8 is its fast rotation speed. However, lifting the bucket can sometimes be slower, which may impact certain tasks.
- Durability and Maintenance: Lei Pang Zi 007 appreciated the fact that spare parts for the Yuchai 230LC-8 are readily available, and replacing parts, such as the engine assembly, is relatively inexpensive, costing around 30,000 CNY.
Challenges:- Initial Faults: While the Yuchai 230LC-8 performed well overall, it did experience a couple of issues early on. After 50 hours, the generator belt broke, and after 520 hours, the main power switch burned out. Fortunately, the manufacturer’s repair service was quick to respond, and the necessary parts were easy to obtain, causing minimal disruption to his work.
Thoughts on Domestic Machinery
Lei Pang Zi 007 is confident in the quality of the domestic excavator he purchased. He believes that the rise of domestic construction machinery is inevitable, as every country’s industry needs time to develop. He draws comparisons with Japan and South Korea, whose construction machinery industries grew due to a combination of factors: an abundant number of construction sites in the 60s and 70s and significant technical support post-war. Similarly, China’s construction machinery sector will go through its own growth process, and Lei Pang Zi 007 is optimistic about the future of domestic brands.
In his view, the progress of Chinese construction machinery is evident, and he believes that in the near future, Chinese machines will dominate the local construction industry. He is hopeful that the growing confidence in domestic machines will continue to pave the way for further advancements and wider adoption.
Conclusion:
The Yuchai 230LC-8 is proving to be a reliable and cost-effective option for construction professionals in China. Its strong performance, fuel efficiency, and easy maintenance make it a solid choice for those looking for a domestic excavator. Although Lei Pang Zi 007 encountered some early issues, the overall experience with the machine has been positive. He is confident that the Chinese construction machinery sector is on the right track and is eager to see the industry grow stronger in the coming years.
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Komatsu PC60-8 Usage Report After 570 Hours: Compact Yet Powerful |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:40 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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The Komatsu PC60-8 is a compact excavator introduced by Komatsu in 2011, and it made its debut at the Beijing BICES construction machinery exhibition that year. Positioned between the PC56-7 and PC70-8 models, the PC60-8 is ideal for earthworks. It features the high-power SAA4D95LE turbocharged engine, combining a small footprint with powerful performance, improved combustion, and excellent thermal efficiency.
Komatsu PC60-8 Key Specifications - Engine Model: Komatsu SAA4D95LE-5
- Rated Power: 55PS (40.7kW)
- Operating Weight: 6180kg
- Max Travel Speed (High): 4.5 km/h
- Max Digging Depth: 3900mm
- Bucket Digging Force (Max): 5590Kgf
- Arm Digging Force (Max): 4060Kgf
- Max Digging Radius: 6190mm
User Report: 570 Hours with the Komatsu PC60-8
User "HappyHunter" purchased the PC60-8 early in 2012, after using a Komatsu PC60-7 for nearly three years. Their decision to buy the new PC60-8 was driven by trust in the Komatsu brand. The total cost of the machine was 510,000 CNY, financed through a down payment and loan.
After 570 hours of usage, here’s what "HappyHunter" had to say about the Komatsu PC60-8:
Pros:
- Appearance & Comfort
"HappyHunter" is very satisfied with the appearance of the Komatsu PC60-8. The cab offers ample space and the seat is comfortable, making the overall driving experience quite enjoyable.
- Toolbox Design
The PC60-8’s toolbox is convenient, though it’s a bit small—just enough space to fit one grease bucket. Despite its small size, it proves to be a practical feature.
- Bucket Size
The machine comes with a 0.3m³ rock bucket. While this bucket felt a bit oversized for most of the earthworks tasks, "HappyHunter" had initially wanted to switch to a different bucket but couldn't as the sales company did not have the compatible earthworks bucket available.
- Walking Performance
The walking performance varies in different modes. In “turtle mode,” when the throttle is at six, turning can feel a bit difficult. In “rabbit mode,” however, a seven-speed throttle is necessary to achieve the desired walking speed. Compared to the PC60-7, the PC60-8’s walking speed isn’t as quick.
Cons:
- Paint Quality Issue
Although "HappyHunter" takes good care of the machine, he noticed the paint started bubbling on the rear of the machine after just 500 hours. This raises concerns about the durability of the paint job.
- Fuel Consumption
While the PC60-8 delivers solid performance, its fuel consumption is higher than the previous PC60-7 model. "HappyHunter" measured that the fuel tank capacity is smaller, and the fuel consumption is noticeably higher.
- Joystick Feedback
In the EO standard mode, using six throttle settings makes the joystick feel heavy. In the P power mode, however, the joystick feels lighter with the same throttle setting. This discrepancy might affect the precision and comfort of operations.
- Rotation Speed and Force
While the PC60-8’s power is impressive, its rotation speed is somewhat slow. The response time for compound actions is quick, but overall, it feels less agile compared to other models in its class.
Conclusion:
Overall, the Komatsu PC60-8 strikes a good balance between performance and compactness, making it a great choice for earthworks. Its powerful engine and spacious cab contribute to a comfortable and efficient operating experience. However, there are a few drawbacks, including issues with paint quality and higher fuel consumption compared to the PC60-7. While the machine performs well, improvements in fuel efficiency and durability would make the PC60-8 even more competitive. For users seeking reliability and power in a small form factor, the PC60-8 remains a solid choice, though there are areas for improvement.
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User Review: ZY60 Mini Excavator with Domestic Engine – Quality Still to Be Tested |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:38 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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On August 8, 2012, the new generation ZY60 mini excavator, powered by Quanchai engines, rolled off the production line at Rongsheng Machinery's facility in Hefei. The use of a domestic engine, particularly from Quanchai, has caught the attention of many industry observers. While the use of local engines in small excavators is not new, the timing of this product’s release – at a critical moment in the collaboration between Rongsheng Heavy Industries and Quanchai Power – has sparked curiosity and concerns among users.
A New Player with Local Power
Currently, the majority of small excavators in China still rely on foreign engine brands such as Cummins, Isuzu, Yanmar, Mitsubishi, and Perkins. However, some manufacturers, including Yuchai, Changchai, and Quanchai, have ventured into using domestic engines for their products, especially in machines under 5 tons. The ZY60 is a notable addition to this category, and its launch by Rongsheng Heavy Industries has generated mixed reactions in the market.
Some experienced users from the machinery community have expressed their views on this new development, with varied opinions on the use of domestic engines in excavators. - User "罩得住": While domestic engines like Weichai and Yuchai are mainstream, small excavators with domestic engines tend to have shorter lifespans. Many new domestic mini excavators are prone to issues, such as air conditioning failures and oil leaks, which can affect long-term durability.
- User "沐浴阳关": The small excavator market is seeing growth, especially due to lower purchase costs. The introduction of the ZY60 means more competition in the market. The benefit of using domestic engines is that they lower both purchase and maintenance costs, making it easier for users to manage repairs, though it may come with higher failure rates.
- User "汗鱼": The use of domestic engines in small excavators is not unprecedented. The key factor is whether the engine’s power output is well-matched to the machine’s design. The real challenge lies in the selection of hydraulic components.
- User "堕落天使": Domestic engines like Yuchai have been used in small excavators for some time. The ZY60 is not a groundbreaking example; it is a cost-effective machine. While domestic engines work in small excavators, they tend to be noisier and have shorter lifespans.
Promotional Materials Highlight Cost-Effectiveness
Rongsheng Heavy Industries, which is part of the Rongsheng Machinery Group based in Hefei, has a track record of diversification. In March 2010, Rongsheng Heavy Industries expanded by acquiring Hefei Zhenyu Engineering Machinery and establishing a hydraulic excavator production facility. This was followed by investments in the development of cranes, concrete machinery, mining machinery, and agricultural machinery.
At the ZY60 mini excavator launch, Rongsheng Machinery’s CEO, Yao Guangshan, emphasized the company’s approach to the macroeconomic environment and the strategic importance of the ZY60, which aligns with their dual-brand strategy. The ZY60 uses a Quanchai engine paired with a German hydraulic system, and the design has incorporated lessons from benchmark products, adapting them to meet both domestic and international technological standards.
The project focuses on cost control, with modular, standardized, and interchangeable components to simplify maintenance and improve after-sales service.
Public Reception and Market Position
According to promotional materials, the ZY60 has demonstrated impressive performance and reliability during comparison tests. The design is visually appealing, and the machine’s cost-effectiveness is highlighted as a key factor for market success. Rongsheng expects the ZY60 to help boost its market share, especially in the high-end sector, with its RS series aiming to quickly enter the premium market.
Despite these claims, many users remain cautious. While there are examples of successful applications of domestic engines in excavators, some are skeptical about the long-term reliability of such machines. The true quality of the ZY60 can only be judged through real-world use. As the domestic market for excavators grows rapidly, the focus is shifting to technological breakthroughs in core components, which will ultimately determine whether Rongsheng’s product lives up to its promises.
In conclusion, while the ZY60 offers a cost-effective alternative with a domestic engine, it remains to be seen whether it can match the performance, durability, and market presence of foreign-engine-powered machines. As the industry continues to evolve, the quality of the core components and the overall build will be crucial for the ZY60’s long-term success.
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Hitachi ZX70 2100-Hour User Report: Fuel Efficient and High Performance |
Posted by: MikePhua - 06-29-2025, 03:28 PM - Forum: Operator Talking
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The Hitachi ZX70 mini excavator has gained popularity among users for its excellent fuel efficiency and stable performance. Discussions about the ZX70, especially regarding fuel consumption and machine performance, have been quite active in the machinery community. Below is a user report from chenwei, who has used his Hitachi ZX70 for 2100 hours, providing an in-depth look into his experience with this machine.
Purchase Background and Reason for Choosing the ZX70
Chenwei previously owned a Yuchai 85 mini excavator. In December 2010, he decided to sell it and purchased a Hitachi ZX70 for 480,000 RMB. He considered mini excavators from Komatsu and Caterpillar, but ultimately chose the ZX70 due to its larger size, inclusion of a bulldozer blade, and more favorable pricing. Since then, this ZX70 has been in operation for 2100 hours.
Machine Specifications - Engine: Isuzu 6BD1, rated power of 40.5 kW
- Weight: 7.49 tons
- Bucket Capacity: 0.3m³ (optional 0.38m³)
- Chassis Dimensions: Length 2.76 meters, Width 2.2 meters
- Digging Radius: 6.32 meters
- Max Digging Depth: 4.17 meters
- Attachments: Equipped with a bulldozer blade, suitable for various types of work
Fuel Efficiency and Stability
Chenwei is particularly pleased with the fuel efficiency of his ZX70. In E-mode, the fuel consumption at full load (1750 RPM) is 5.2 liters per hour, and at 1550 RPM, it drops to 4.5 liters per hour. Even in high temperatures above 35°C, the water temperature stays stable, hovering around 85°C, without exceeding the normal range. However, there is a slight increase in overflow noise, which does not affect the overall functioning.
Routine Maintenance and After-Sales Service
During its use, Chenwei's ZX70 has not encountered any major issues apart from the regular maintenance. Although the machine is out of warranty, Hitachi still sends personnel periodically to conduct checks, which Chenwei finds very satisfactory. The maintenance work is generally carried out by the user based on the machine's operating conditions, and he continues to use the spare parts that were included with the machine at the time of purchase.
Summary
Overall, the Hitachi ZX70 mini excavator has earned high praise for its fuel efficiency, stable performance, and reliable after-sales service. Its low fuel consumption, even under high loads, makes it ideal for long-duration and high-intensity work. While there is a slight increase in overflow noise at high temperatures, it does not impact the machine's performance. With its efficiency, comfort, and reliability, the ZX70 has proven to be a popular choice in the mini excavator market.
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